The 2016 Hugo Finalists

[james_davis_nicoll]

Once again, I am a mere background figure, not even a red shirt. But there are some interesting works up for Hugo, as well as puppy crap destined to place below no award.

Comments

[matgb]

Next year, in Finland ;-)

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

Is the Moira Greyland essay a Puppy nomination, do you know?

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

She could be. Her political views are in line with the puppies, although not as moderate. And she plays to a narrative VD is trying to sell about his rivals.

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

That said, what happened to her is horrible and indefensible and a story that should be better known than it is.

[agharta75.livejournal.com]

Yes. It's on Day's list.

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

Yes. Which is not to say other people didn't also nominate it. But yes, it was on the RP slate.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Yes. And the version of it they got on the ballot comes from a violently misogynist website, for bonus points.

[fridgepunk.livejournal.com]

It's sort of a double fuck you - it's not the original report on abuse by Marion Zimmer Bradley but a second hand report of the original report on a hyper abusive misogynist's website.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

Wow, 3 things I nominated made it on the ballot (Uprooted, Ex Machina, & Jessica Jones) - I'm pleased.

I know nothing about the Butcher, but the other novel entries look like the typical (from my PoV) Hugo mix of a novel (or in this case 2, with Uprooted and Ancillary Mercy) I liked, at least one piece of trash (Seveneves, bad even for Stephenson), and something I won't read because of excessive grimness, and looking further down, I see a few indications of puppy droppings, but thankfully not very many.

Edit: looking further, it seems they dominated best short story and best related work :(

[soon_lee]

File770.com is down but here's a capture of the analysis. "Vox Day’s Rabid Puppies slate placed 64 of its 81 recommendations on the final ballot."

Rabid Puppies also included works that might have been expected to have made the final ballot without slating (e.g. Sandman:Overture) as an attempt to cause head explosions amongst the "Noah Ward all slate candidates" voters.

Given that last year the votership saw fit to award a Hugo to "Guardians of the Galaxy" despite it being on the Rabid Puppies slate, I credit the WSFS membership with sufficient judgement to respond to Vox Day's machinations appropriately.

[sean o'hara (from livejournal.com)]

My favorite bit of Pup spinnery so far:

A casual look reveals items in several categories that I would vote for, whereas in previous years it was a snobfes. Uprooted, Seveneves and Jim Butcher in Best Novel?

Note that this is Novik's second nomination, and Stephenson's fourth, and the Novik novel wasn't even on the slate.

[jsburbidge.livejournal.com]

Uprooted would seem to have been on the Sad list.

[chrysostom476.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Stephenson is pretty broadly popular among the non-RP membership.

[seth ellis (from livejournal.com)]

If it's any consolation, it seems like the wrong time to be getting non-pro Hugo nominations. Those are the categories the RPs easily dominate.

we need e pluribus hugo

[solarbird]

I want this to put to rest the canard that a bigger fandom turnout would solve everything.

We got that bigger turnout, and it was from fandom in general. It was huge. Twice as many nominators as last year, and it does not matter because one party vs. unorganised candidates always produces overwhelming party victory. And it just did, again.

I have a proposal for how to respond this year, of course. And, as I said above, this demonstrates how much we need e pluribus hugo, because an exploit, once public, will be repeatedly exploited until patched. If not by the Rabids, by others, and then you end up with an assortment of competing slates and a Red Queen's Race that destroys any value the award might ever have. That's just reality.

Goddamn I hope e pluribus hugo passes second reading.

Re: we need e pluribus hugo

[scott-sanford.livejournal.com]

Yes. While we did pretty well for half a century without this nonsense, it's clear Vox Day isn't going to get a new hobby while the old one is getting him attention. If you're attending Mid-Americon and the business meeting, please vote for EPH and/or 4/6 as your judgment leads you. Either one will be an effective slate killer and they are not mutually exclusive so it's okay to support both.

Re: we need e pluribus hugo

[nojay.livejournal.com]

This year's voting in Kansas City will show if there's an enthusiasm gap with respect to the Puppies. Any of last year's Puppies i.e. someone who bought a supporting membership in the 2015 Spokane Worldcon to mess with the process was eligible to nominate this year. It's not cost them anything else other than some of their time to manipulate the 2016 nominations list. If they want to vote they'll have to put their hands in their pockets and pull out another 40-odd bucks and give it to the WSFS. They have a worked example of what happened last year, with Noah Ward sweeping the categories they most wished to influence and despite the spin nobody loves a loser, not when they're personally dropping the price of a AAA-rated game on the experience.

[glaurung-quena.livejournal.com]

So this year, we have legit nominations who got on the ballot through their own merit, puppy crap (vox day as best editor, give me a break), and then we have good quality works that got on due to puppies nominating them in an effort to spoil things.

I guess the last category should be called "puppy pee-on" nominees.

[wakboth.livejournal.com]

I definitely include the MLP:FiM nomination as part of the last category. The show's good and the episodes nominated are quite fine.

[beatrice_otter]

And Penric's Demon is on the Puppy slate despite Bujold requesting them to take it off.

[kgbooklog.livejournal.com]

Brandon Sanderson is on the Rabid slate, and he's decided that declining the nomination now would give VD too much power.

[raycun.livejournal.com]

Four of the five fan writers were from the slate :(

[scott-sanford.livejournal.com]

I laugh at it now, but I also hope to be around in future years when fans see the title Space Raptor Butt Invasion by Chuck Tingle on the nominations list.

[azurelunatic]

I feel that "best related crackfic" ought to be a legitimate category.

[joenotcharles.livejournal.com]

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