Date: 2014-10-01 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
Black Widow is pretty prominent in Winter Soldier, but... no, it is not a Black Widow solo movie.

In Infinity, my daughter rarely plays as Black Widow because, as the Badass Normal of the bunch, she starts out with the least impressive powers; the game design hobbles characters who can't fly. But the Wasp and Captain Marvel can fly! Too bad you can't play them. Of course, the decision to make Black Widow the sole playable female Avenger probably stems from the movies, but that just pushes the problem back one step.

I'm sure that if you ask the suits about this gendered kid-marketing, they'll say the same thing: that girls who play video games, etc. may accept male characters but little boys are repelled by anything girly, and that this is a real effect that impacts sales. To some extent, I'm sure it's true: I've definitely seen it in the wild. But it's a vicious cycle: the attitude is reinforced by the gendered marketing to kids, and then justifies more of the same.

Date: 2014-10-01 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-geekette.livejournal.com
I think the main problem with merch marketed to girls is that they make it pink and just quit. It's a bit more complex than that. And nah, I think some/a lot of boys are conditioned to not like "girly" things, but Marvel's apparent viewpoint that female character = GIRL COOTIES that no boy will want to associate with is such a tired mindset. In the case with the Guardians birthday set, the person who mentioned it said the boy it was for would've loved to have Gamora more prominently included. I think she was included on a napkin, or something. Oh wow.

But maybe the hold-off on making Wasp and Captain Marvel playable, is, like you said, the movie-verse. What better way to gauge interest than rolling stuff like that out? I had heard that Wasp was originally supposed to be part of the Avengers movies, but they cut her due to Antman (and then seemingly killed her, but maybe Hope whatever is going to take over part of that character). The fact that they are dragging their heels on Captain Marvel frankly angers me (and they really missed their shot with a Black Widow origin story). I am not a fan of DC's grim-darkness of late, but I hope they finally do the Wonder Woman movie. It is majorly overdue. Like decades. Endless Batman/Superman reboots are just tiresome.

Date: 2014-10-01 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithmm.livejournal.com
If little boys are repelled by anything girly, at which stage does that end so that a large portion of the male players of videogames like the departed City of Heroes have female avatars?

Date: 2014-10-01 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
If it was one of those games where you spend most of the time looking at your character's backside, puberty?

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