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Date: 2009-01-31 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownkitty.livejournal.com
Has anyone notified the California Bar Association about this? I think this is the sort of misconduct that can get his license removed.

Date: 2009-01-31 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poeticalpanther.livejournal.com
I've long since decided that my policy on trolls is simple, and as most good advice, can be given as a rhyming couplet:

Again I say you: do not feed the troll
Tis rather better just to use the scroll


Even a bodged-up iambic pentameter. Don't say I never get you anything.

Date: 2009-01-31 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
No kidding, there are ethics rules for lawyers and this nut has got to be way outside of these rules.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
Unfortunately, the state bar ethics rules don't include "don't be a troll", but anyone wishing to make a complaint may do so by calling 1 800 843 9053 inside California or 213 765 1200 outside of California, or filling out this form.
Edited Date: 2009-01-31 05:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-31 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfs.livejournal.com
While Mr. Jackson certainly does seem to be an asshole from all the evidence presented, being a writers of disturbing sexual imagery and fatherhood are not entirely incompatible. I'm not the only writer who's familiar with this dichotomy, either.

Date: 2009-01-31 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
ZOMG! I thought [livejournal.com profile] darkerblogistan and [livejournal.com profile] igorsanchez were two different racist, misogynist trolls!

Oh well, I'd already pre-emptively banned them both.

Date: 2009-01-31 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joenotcharles.livejournal.com
The actual state bar rules are here, and scanning the headings I don't see anything on relations with the general public, only with clients, except for 1-400: Advertising and Solicitation. I thought maybe his cash-for-sex ad might fall foul of that, but it seems to deal specifically with solicitation of services as a lawyer.

Which is as it should be, I guess.

Date: 2009-01-31 08:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] avram
I've been wondering if maybe the lawyer biz isn't going to well for him, and he's been trying to provoke someone into slugging him so he can sue. (How the slugging would work over the Internet, I dunno.)

Date: 2009-01-31 10:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com

being a writers of disturbing sexual imagery and fatherhood are not entirely incompatible.

Who said it was "entirely incompatible?" The only reference to his fatherhood on Kynn's post is this: "it's understandable that as a happily married man and father ..... Luke Jackson might want to dissociate his violent porn fiction from his public persona[.]"

This is true. I mean, I write violent porn fiction on occasion, and if I had kids or were a teacher or something, I'd *definitely* want to disassociate it from my public and/or professional persona. You just can't be too careful with that sort of thing. It doesn't say anything about my character or my fitness to raise children. It's just common sense; as Kynn says, it's understandable.

However...

"A writer of disturbing sexual imagery" is not exactly how I would describe someone who posts a rape fantasy on the Internet, then emails a woman (even creepier in the context of this discussion, a woman of color) and tells her directly, 'this was inspired by you.'

We're not talking about Clive Barker or Poppy Z. Brite here. We're talking about a guy who habitually spams the Internet with innocuous-looking links, in order to surprise people with the content of his blog; he's not a writer, he's the Internet equivalent of a flasher, or the kind of guy who makes heavy-breathing phone calls.

Date: 2009-01-31 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supergee.livejournal.com
There is a slight bit of pleasure in knowing that there aren't quite as many of them as we had thought.

Date: 2009-01-31 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khavrinen.livejournal.com
(How the slugging would work over the Internet, I dunno.)

Although there are certainly residents who sometimes make one wish to try, however much more appropriate lovecraftienne's couplet advice usually is.

Date: 2009-01-31 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
This. Both points.

(Also creepy: The woman of color lives in the same city as Mr. Jackson.)

Date: 2009-01-31 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
Informing the partners at his firm of what exactly he's tyring to do to people and how he's been making sure that his behaviour is linked to his firm might produce interesting results.

Date: 2009-01-31 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stevegreen.livejournal.com
Next week, we discover that the NRA is just one guy living in a chicken coop in Kansas.

Date: 2009-01-31 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Has it been established that he really is that Luke Jackson and not, say, someone trying to cause that Luke Jackson trouble?

Date: 2009-01-31 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beth-bernobich.livejournal.com
I'd banned them both, too.

And I'd heard a rumor they were the same, but it wasn't until someone posted anonymous trash on my LJ (done in igor's style) that I knew for certain they were the same. Timing can be so telling.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
Steve St!rling once did the same to me, right down to getting the address and phone number wrong.

I've seen some dysfunctional subcultures in my time, but SF really does try harder. Has anyone contacted Gawker or MediaBistro yet about TNH's attempt to blacklist writers? (Apparently taken back in an "Fuck you I was only joking aren't you a sanctimonious prig I will delete the evidence now so it never happened" mature and classy sort of way.)

Date: 2009-01-31 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
Nope. I'm a member and I'm in Minnesota, so it can't be just that guy in Kansas.

Date: 2009-01-31 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com
It's amusing how some people think posting your address is a horrible thing to do to you. I suspect it's projection; he knows it'd be bad for him if people knew where he lived, and figures that's true for everybody. I've been in newsgroups where that was done, and one response that was amusing is a lot of other people started posting their own contact info. Since mine is publicly available from my various DNS registrars, and from archived copies of the Einblatt!, and from the freaking telephone directory, and perhaps from things I'm not remembering right now, it's not a very useful way for somebody to threaten me.

Date: 2009-01-31 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rachelmanija.livejournal.com
Steve Stirling once made a sort of half-assed death threat to me on usenet. IIRC, "People like you ought to be shot, and if I didn't live in Canada, I'd do it myself.

I threatened to report him to the FBI for making death threats across national borders, and he shut up.

TNH: I have no idea and have only the vaguest idea of what those are. But you could! There are screencaps.

Date: 2009-01-31 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I could do it justice. I always get to the discussions after the fact, so I've never seem them develop in real time.

Gawker is a New-York-media news and gossip blog, part of the same network that runs io9. Tor might be a bit out of their focus, but this might fit their "Nerdfight" rubric. MediaBistro is a big site for "content creator"/"creative class" people -- newsfeeds, blogs, job listings, et cetera -- and keeps track of things like the current downsizing in publishing.

Some background information would be necessary. I don't think it's commonly realized outside SF how intermingled its professionals and its fandom are: how so many of its authors and editors came up through fandom, for instance. There's a much wider separation elsewhere. Otherwise it would look like a fanwank slap flight... which is how TNH would like to present it, of course.

Also, while I don't think there are any stats available, the fact that professional SF is whiter than a NASCAR rally does not seem to be commonly known.

Anyway. In my experience, media watcher types already assume that SF publishing is kind of cracked, so this might be a "dog bites man" story for them. But the pomposity of the responses might trigger a humor reflex and work as a hook, in an "Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills," sort of way.

Date: 2009-01-31 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
It's pretty decisively shown, yeah. There are a lot of interconnections between Luke Jackson's accounts -- such as his MySpace page with videos of him that show him clearly as the guy who works at CJ&W.

Date: 2009-01-31 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
"Aquaman, you cannot marry a woman without gills,"

Are you getting paid per mention of that phrase or something?

Gawker is a New-York-media news and gossip blog

Gawker is the site that thought it was appropriate to repeat a decade or so old libel about Arthur C. Clarke in his obit.

Date: 2009-01-31 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's kind of like how he thought he was insulting me by saying "ZOMG KYNN LOOKS LIKE A BOY AND A GIRL AT THE SAME TIME."

My real address probably isn't that hard to find, but he got the wrong one, of course.
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