Actual science in science fiction
Apr. 18th, 2005 11:09 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Not applied sciences, I mean, or feats of engineering but the actual process of science. Is this a suitable topic for SF, by which I mean "can it be the seed for a story?" Or maybe better yet, "how does one use it as the seed for a story?"
One example would be the Steerswoman books. I think part of what makes that possible is that the protagonist is discovering scientific models that we are already familiar with, so the author is not saddled with the problem of coming up with a new scientific model.
I am not fussy about "Yes, this was cutting edge science 200 years ago and it still is today" stories, where whatever bit of pop-science that made the cover of DISCOVER is still new and exciting centuries from now.
One example would be the Steerswoman books. I think part of what makes that possible is that the protagonist is discovering scientific models that we are already familiar with, so the author is not saddled with the problem of coming up with a new scientific model.
I am not fussy about "Yes, this was cutting edge science 200 years ago and it still is today" stories, where whatever bit of pop-science that made the cover of DISCOVER is still new and exciting centuries from now.
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Date: 2005-04-18 03:32 pm (UTC)I probably should have clarified that I meant non-nonsensical science.
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Date: 2005-04-18 03:52 pm (UTC)For the former: some Jack McDevitt, for archeology and anthropology.
Charles Sheffield must have had someone doing science, but I can't seem to think of anything.
I never read much Robert L. Forward, but I seem to recall _RocheWorld_ as a book mostly about the science of planetary systems. IIRC _Alpha Centauri_ had some scientists doing science as well, I thought, although it was of course mostly background for Barton and Capobianco's gedankenexperiment in social dysfunction.
There is probably a fair bit of short fiction from Analog that fits the bill, most likely involving an iconoclastic lone scientist overthowing the established order.
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Date: 2005-04-18 03:57 pm (UTC)The Gregs
Date: 2005-04-18 04:01 pm (UTC)Greg Bear uses similar plot twists in "The Forge of God" as scientists try to figure out how the Earth will be destroyed, though the developments are mostly a "oh shit, we're in trouble" "oh shit, it's even worse" kind.
...and I'm amused that both the recent posts I've made in your journal were about Greg Egan and Greg Bear. :)
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Date: 2005-04-18 06:09 pm (UTC)Well, the process of discovery and the chains of coincidence and hard work that go into it is an important part of the start of Asimov's The Gods Themselves. James Blish's The Frozen Year is about an (International Geophysical Year) polar expedition, seeking out Martian or asteroid belt meteorites that are easier to spot in Antarctica than other places, too, although the conclusion makes some leaps maybe stronger than the evidence collected would suggest.
Fred Hoyle's The Black Cloud is similarly a taut story of astronomical observations and deduction up until the alien entity arrives, and Arthur C Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama is effectively a commando archeology trip, even if the process of finding conclusions aren't drawn. There's much in 2010 that's characters sitting around a computer screen watching confused wiggles of ambiguous data from remote sensors, too.
Or have I misunderstood the question? (In any case these are certainly ancient books; the newest of them is a quarter-century old. I just don't know the modern field well enough.)
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Date: 2005-04-19 12:20 am (UTC)In a more surreal vein, Jonathan Lethem's As She Climbed Across the Table gets some of the atmosphere of a working lab right, but it's very strange.
The science-y bits of Robert Charles Wilson's Blind Lake are pretty good.
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Date: 2005-04-19 04:51 am (UTC)I'd like to sell it on RASFW with the subtitle Ipecac For Randroids.
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