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It's not possible to boycott something I never planned on seeing in the first place.

Date: 2013-11-03 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bibliofile
surely that won't stop you from declaring (early and often) how the boycott means that you won't be seeing the film? It wouldn't stop some people, at least.

Date: 2013-11-01 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com
I run into this problem on a regular basis.

Date: 2013-11-01 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] david wilford (from livejournal.com)
The reviews I've read so far are lukewarm at best, but we'll see what the real buzz is when the first weekend's box office numbers are in.

Date: 2013-11-01 06:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jamoche
Likewise, though I've just read that the only additional money Card is going to make will come from book sale boosts.

But on a related topic - after a 20 year gap, Chick-fil-a is back in the SF Bay Area. One's even in my home town - I can actively boycott them now!

Date: 2013-11-01 06:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-01 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
But it's a little different in that a movie like Ender's Game is normally something I'd go see. Assuming it wasn't a laudatory Young Hitler biopic by a man actively making the world as much worse as he can? I like sci-fi movies, and Harrison Ford, and space battles.

Date: 2013-11-01 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
And he'll make money from sequels or other book adaptations. However: The fact that he's likely not making MORE money now based on the success or failure of his movie does not change that "punishing the actors, the studio, and the theatre for giving money to Card, so they won't do it again even if they can't undo this mistake" is the right and moral decision.

Date: 2013-11-02 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmegaera.livejournal.com
I actually am boycotting it, because I'd have gone to see a good Harrison Ford SF movie in a heartbeat.

So that's something.

I don't know what Ford's got to say about his role or the movie, or Card for that matter, or what other idiotic, mean things he's said and done, and I don't care, but I am so disappointed in him for being in in Ender's Game I could spit.

Date: 2013-11-02 01:57 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] agent-mimi.livejournal.com
Trying to boycott if possible; if it ends up on For Your Consideration lists or might be nommed for an Academy Award in acting/directing/writing, I'll pretty much have to watch it, but I don't think it's likely.

Date: 2013-11-02 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sean o'hara (from livejournal.com)
Bit late to be boycotting Chick-fil-A considering they gave in.

Date: 2013-11-02 02:47 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
The source is some PR agent trying to deal with the problem of getting bums on seats when no one wants to give OSC money - that it's not being said officially means it's either an outright fabrication, or (more likely) it's a mere lie, insofar as hollywood accounting practices work not being paid "the gross" is irrelevent because that's not where producers get their money from anyway.

In fact, isn't gross what the theatres get? And the movie making side of it merely "leases" (or whatever) the rights to show the movie to theatres? Or am I misunderstanding how the cinema industry works?

Date: 2013-11-02 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
The complex and perverse nature of cinema industry accounting is not supposed to be understood.

If people could understand it, they might have actors understanding it! And how could they hide money?

Date: 2013-11-02 03:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jamoche
They did? I can't find any evidence of it.

Date: 2013-11-02 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agharta75.livejournal.com
Didn't like the book, have no desire to see the movie. I have no dog in this fight.

Date: 2013-11-02 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
I did like the book when I read it as a teenager - a lot! But things I've read since then, not just about/by Card but about the book itself and the series of which it's a part, have led me to reevaluate the reasons I liked it, in such a way that I suspect I would not enjoy it so much now. And the movie doesn't sound tremendously interesting.

Date: 2013-11-02 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Wait, we're supposed to *want* to encourage theaters to exercise even more choice over what films to show, rather than approximating common carriers for what people want to see?

The principles of disgust and contagion are really getting a workout here.

Date: 2013-11-02 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blpurdom.livejournal.com
Unlikely. No matter how good the acting, directing or writing is for a genre film, it's most likely to only get noms for technical categories (special effects, sound editing, makeup, etc.). The most "upscale" categories it might get nominated for are things like editing and soundtrack/song. The film of 2001 is an exception, having received noms for Kubrick's direction and the screenplay (Kubrick and Clarke), but the only Oscar it actually received was for best visual effects. And most people consider 2001 to be very different, tonally and otherwise, from the vast majority of SF films.

Date: 2013-11-02 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seth ellis (from livejournal.com)
I reread it a couple of years ago out of curiosity, and it was very apparent that what I got out of it as a teenager wasn't really what Card was putting into it. Kessel's famous essay is pretty much on the money.

Date: 2013-11-03 01:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] agent-mimi.livejournal.com
I deliberately didn't get into the likelihood of technical noms because that leads to the unfortunate second-class-citizen status of tech awards in the Academy, and how I wouldn't actually need to watch the film even if it did get technical noms.

My bigger worry, so to speak, is a studio/distributor putting it in their FYC packages.

Date: 2013-11-03 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
Not just from actors, but writers and directors as well.

Date: 2013-11-08 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
Because they said "sorry", I should forgive them for actions that they knew were unethical and socially unacceptable to start with?

Perhaps god forgives, I'll leave that to him.

Date: 2013-11-08 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
Well, perhaps the boycott will last long enough to affect the awards votes

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