Interesting if true: fuel from air
Oct. 19th, 2012 08:13 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
A British firm based on Teeside says it's designed revolutionary new technology that can produce petrol using air and water.
Presumably there's some kind of energy source, assuming they have not gone the heart of a forsaken child route. Also
Air Fuel Synthesis in Stockton-on-Tees has produced 5 litres of petrol since August, but hopes to be in production by 2015 making synthetic fuel targeted at the motor sports sector.
it's not quite ready for prime time.
This is a way of moving energy from energy rich regions to energy poor ones.
(usual bbc & technology disclaimer: they still do puff pieces on Moller)
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Date: 2012-10-19 02:00 pm (UTC)Cite?
(If this is supposed to be a general-relativistic effect, I say it's bullshit. If it's the Casimir effect or something, some kind of cavity effect on field modes, that's interesting but should probably be phrased differently.)
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Date: 2012-10-19 02:11 pm (UTC)(though the discreteness of the point positions on the graph suggests that this is a very small signal being measured, you're seeing lines for log(n) at n=2 n=3 n=4 ...)
that is indeed the popularization I hit.
Date: 2012-10-19 02:21 pm (UTC)-- Graydon
Re: that is indeed the popularization I hit.
Date: 2012-10-19 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-19 02:24 pm (UTC)(This is not intended as a stab at Graydon because this is all over the place, but I get a little tired of journalists waxing science-fictional about the Casimir effect and related phenomena. While it can be described in terms of properties of the electromagnetic vacuum, it's basically the same thing as the van der Waals force that keeps gasoline liquid and geckos sticking on walls, and there's no reason to think you can use it to get infinite free energy or hyperdrives or any such thing.)
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Date: 2012-10-19 03:32 pm (UTC)I don't at all think there's infinite free energy or a hyperdrive in there.
I am hopeful there's a general-purpose designed catalyst chemistry possibility in there; use all this nano-machining we learned how to do for computer chips to make a fancy-surface that will take a couple orders of magnitude off the power requirements for some basic chemical synthesis tasks.
(The more optimistic version is being able to build complex materials using a bunch of reaction-biasing cavities in sequence, kinda like designer enzymes only on a much wider range of chemistries.)
-- Graydon
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Date: 2012-10-19 04:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-19 04:59 pm (UTC)I'm not even sure it's getting into "better understood"; this looks to my (totally not a physicist) reading more like "we can get this consistent result" than "we know what's going on in here".
-- Graydon
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Date: 2012-10-19 06:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-21 05:49 pm (UTC)Thinks it's very significant indeed.
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Date: 2012-10-21 10:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-10-19 11:12 pm (UTC)