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An SF novel whose setting knowingly includes a global example of a Stage Five society?

[not interested in examples where death rates exceed birth rates for reasons due to calamities like war, famine, plague and the like; those aren't really Stage Five societies]

Date: 2011-04-30 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keithmm.livejournal.com
Solaria, from The Naked Sun. Planetary (human) population of 20,000, minimal human-human contact, and the vast majority like it that way.

Date: 2011-04-30 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
I don't think that makes it Stage Five by itself; the concept seems to be about shrinkage, not small size. Solaria seems to have been a colony that simply never had many people. The fact that Solaria was down to what, 1200? when Golan Trevize visited, does technically qualify, though this was over 25,000 years...

Date: 2011-04-30 05:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
Solaria's population was shrinking by the time of The Naked Sun, and had shrunk and gone into hiding by the time of Robots and Empire which is set only 100 years later, so Solaria and most of the Spacer planets were definately stage 5 – that the process by which the demographic transition happened was interstellar colonisation is beside the point.

Though thinking about it more... Solaria was SPARTA!!!! ...IN SPAAAAAAAACE!!!!!, so were the spartan citizenry an example of a stage 5 society?

Date: 2011-04-30 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
By that kind of criterion, the secret caretakers in "The Marching Morons" were a stage 5 society.

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