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An SF novel whose setting knowingly includes a global example of a Stage Five society?

[not interested in examples where death rates exceed birth rates for reasons due to calamities like war, famine, plague and the like; those aren't really Stage Five societies]

Date: 2011-04-30 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Beta gives two half-permits per person, and allocates some others via lottery or merit or maybe auction; they're going for stability or controlled growth.

Didn't Teela Brown get produced by a "two children plus lottery extras" Earth?

Frankly I can't recall any fictional permit society that was about shrinkage as opposed to stability and/or quality-controlled parenting.

Date: 2011-04-30 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian.livejournal.com
but Stage Five doesn't have an intrinsic goal; James' question didn't exclude stability, parenting goals, eugenics, or other persona-driven/societally driven/government driven things, merely various tragedies and calamities.

Date: 2011-04-30 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
But Stage Five *is* about quiet shrinkage, which those societies don't have. Beta's at Stage Four or Six.

(or, based on guessed author knowledge, naturally at Stage Three but coerced into Stage Four)
Edited Date: 2011-04-30 04:03 pm (UTC)

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