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Even I know the difference between Stephen Douglas and Frederick Douglass.

Somewhere a Fox news editor's history teacher is weeping.

Date: 2008-05-01 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
*Blinks* ... Who?

-- C. (Victim of a British history education, for what it's worth.)
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Date: 2008-05-01 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paraleipsis.livejournal.com
HAHAHAHAHA

Date: 2008-05-01 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shsilver.livejournal.com
I didn't think those 1858 Illinois Democrats were that forward thinking!

Date: 2008-05-01 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com
Frederick Douglass was handsome. My. My.

Date: 2008-05-01 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
That was my first thought. DAMN. And, I looked him up, so now I know who he is!

Date: 2008-05-02 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elynne.livejournal.com
Agreed - though I have a fondness for that eyebrow thing Lincoln has going on. Spock eyebrow ftw!

Date: 2008-05-02 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I am convinced that that is one of the reasons he was so THREATENING to the anti-abolitionists. The whole narrative of "Dem Black Men Gonna Come And Have Sex Wit' Our White Wimmins" thing was a deep fear, I think, and Fredrick Douglass was threatening since, well, you gotta figure that there were quite a few White Wimmins who might not have objected.

He was also, of course, smart, well-educated, well-spoken, a witty conversationalist, and passionate.

Date: 2008-05-01 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
This is a spoof, right? They didn't actually use that image?! If this is true, then that state of education in the US is far more sad and pathetic than I had imagined. Wow...

Date: 2008-05-01 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aisb23.livejournal.com
I am afraid they actually did use that image.

Date: 2008-05-02 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com
Cool!

(We must take our amusements where we find them.)

Date: 2008-05-02 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
Oh gawd, they (Fox) DIDN'T. Did they?!

What am I saying, this is Fox. *headdesk*

Date: 2008-05-02 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyholmwood.livejournal.com
that is fucking hilarious!

Date: 2008-05-01 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln-Douglas_debates_of_1858)


Mind you, the odds are pretty good that I first heard about them from a SCTV sketch or some other source of equal solemnity.

Date: 2008-05-01 09:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
Right. The school history syllabus I was subjected to was much more obsessed with the Schleswig-Holstein Question (and Answers Thereto), probably because of its more immediate historical impact, and I will confess to not having subsequently studied 19th century US history.

But who's the other Douglas guy, this Stephen?

Date: 2008-05-01 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argonel.livejournal.com
I agree, who is this Stephen Douglas? As an american should I even care?

Date: 2008-05-02 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com
Stephen A. Douglas: prominent mid-nineteenth century politician, today almost exclusively remembered for being the "Douglas" of the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

Date: 2008-05-02 03:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
Stephen covered above, Fred was a freed slave and activist who did a lot of "look, we don't eat people" style campaigning in the north. Top bloke.

If you're interested in learning a bit more, can I recommend one of my favourite books? Dead good on covering all the bases, even the clost liberal-socialist nature of some of the early Republican party (esp Lincoln).

Date: 2008-05-02 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
And we have The Frederick Douglas House Historic Site here in DC. It has a lot of his stuff and explains about what he did. There was a recent foofooraw because historians finally found out what color the house was painted when he lived there, and painted it that, and the neighbors don't like it.

Date: 2008-05-06 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redknight.livejournal.com

"Page Not Found I'm sorry that page could not be found, but you may want to try the NPS homepage here http://www.nps.gov."

Apparently the neighbors hated it so much that they even got the web page taken down! :-)

Date: 2008-05-06 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
I clicked on the link and it worked for me. Maybe you should try again.

Date: 2008-05-07 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redknight.livejournal.com

It's much happier (working) now.

Date: 2008-05-01 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
Dude. Douglass loved Scotland, and the Scots loved him. His last name is even taken from "The Lady in the Lake".

Date: 2008-05-01 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
Of, not In. Though Chandler mashed with Scott would be interesting.

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