Date: 2014-10-27 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
For some reason I really liked the teleportation network in Simak's Shakespeare's Planet, where the directory had been lost ages ago and people were mapping it out the hard way.

Date: 2014-10-27 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
It's always challenging when the links aren't bidirectional and the characters can't just step back home...

John DeChancie put a different spin on that with his Starrigger novels. It's amusing to see trucks or trains used for interstellar travel.

Date: 2014-10-27 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com
It's interesting to consider a "Stargate" series where the portals are unidirectional. Or even better, set up kind of like regular reverse neurons- one entrance, and several destinations, or vice versa. The Stargate people would have to try to map out the network to find the the gate that leads home.
Edited Date: 2014-10-27 07:15 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-27 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilya187.livejournal.com
Also Peter Hamilton in "Pandora's Star" and its sequels: A gate is set up between two planets, tracks are laid, and people take trains from one to the other.

That's actually something that bothered me in SF long time ago -- "If we have a magic device that instantly transports you across light years, why are we putting it on top of a giant firecracker?"

Date: 2014-10-27 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There were also some Doctor Who expanded-universe tie-in novels that established that in some era of human civilization, there were subway trains going through wormholes to distant planets.

The usual SF handwave about starships is that there's some reason the jump drive has to be used in space. It won't work too far into a planetary gravity well, or it involves going to a specific point in space or a specific rest frame or both, or it involves dangerous astrophysical phenomena that are not healthy for children and other living things. Or some combination of the preceding, as in The Forever War. Of course, the out-of-universe reason for this is usually just that the author wants to still have spaceships.

Matt M.

Date: 2014-10-27 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilya187.livejournal.com
The least handwavy explanation IMO is that "hyperspatial jump" (or whatever you call it) is just not very precise. No reason not to initiate it on a planet's surface, but if your target area is light-hours across, you'll end up in vacuum and need an appropriate vehicle. Unless you are really, really unlucky :)
Edited Date: 2014-10-27 03:50 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-28 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruce munro (from livejournal.com)
It also makes things more interesting in space warfare. If your enemy can just teleport their heck-bombs directly from their planet to yours as soon as they find it, there's not much room for pseudo-Napoleonic maneuvers! in! space!

Date: 2014-10-28 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
That's certainly the case in Old Man's War and sequels, in which the Skip Drive needs to be well away from planets to engage but will deliver starships or missiles anywhere the operators desire. This makes for obvious difficulties if you want to keep your planet un-nuked. Luckily for the protagonists, every single other species in the known galaxy is even dumber than the people in charge of the Colonial Union, nor do they have the blessing of the author.

Date: 2014-10-28 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com
IIRC, that was a minor plot point in the Dragonfall 5 novels. The titular spaceship was obsolete, because modern FTL vessels simply went into hyperspace directly from their planetside launching cradles.

Date: 2014-10-28 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
I remember reading those as a kid! I think I've forgotten what circumstances required an actual flying-though-space vehicle but the operators actually got to go places and see things, unlike their compatriots who simply disappeared at A and reappeared at B. Do you know if the books escaped the Suck Fairy? Would they be worth digging out for an adult?

Date: 2014-10-28 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com
Bear in mind that it's been over thirty years since I read them, so I don't actually remember much. I think part of the use of the Dragonfall was to go to places without facilities. Maybe.

Date: 2014-10-28 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That matches my memory of the couple of those I read. The 'modern' ships couldn't go somewhere where there was no receiving cradle, and someone had to deliver the first receiving cradle (or the means to build it).

There's also Kuttner's "The Big Night", where hyperspace ships are being replaced by matter transmitters. One of the jobs still available to the ships is delivering matter transmitter gates to new locations.

-- Paul Clarke

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