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If it turns out that the appropriate model for people in space is something like a highly automated mining camp (Rather than, oh, O'Neill's California Suburbs innnnnn Space), then if there are Canadians up there, I bet that they won't be from the relatively prosperous parts of Canada. Ontarians will be too smugly comfortable, Albertans will still be working through their sea of oil and nobody from BC will be able to pass the drug test. No, the planets might belong to the groups known for migrating to places that can offer them jobs, the Newfoundlanders and the Maritimers.

I thought of this while watching Stand Up in Kandahar last week, when one of the Newfoundlander comics made a joke that they'd go anywhere for work. "Anywhere" covers a lot of territory.

Date: 2007-03-17 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
I've been thinking somewhat about the space elevator/Panama Canal analogy. You know: American initiative, stalls, gets bought out by Asian consortium. Dubai finance, Singapore location, Chinese materials, Japanese robots, and a whole lot of semi-expendable Filipino orbital construction workers. Of course it ends up with a Greek diner at top. There's room for a Newfoundlander dishwasher.

There's room for a Newfoundlander dishwasher.

Date: 2007-03-17 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Newfoundlanders are not inherently incapable of being educated, you know.

I was thinking of the same kind of dynamic that led to test pilots trying to sound like a Southerner leading to a generation of spacers who sound like an educated John Crosby.
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
I mentally associate 'dishwasher' with 'collegiate underemployment', which I suppose dates me.

Panama Canal analogy

Date: 2007-03-18 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like this.

It'd be Bangladeshi as much as Filipino, mind you. With some interesting sorting by work type.

Totall random thought: I wonder what's the highest point on a space elevator from which, if your spacesuit had the right sort of parachute, you could plausibly survive a fall and a nonpowered re-entry. I'd guess ~~1000 km up, but that's just a guess.


Doug M.

Damn it

Date: 2007-03-17 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Now I have Stan Rogers' songs stuck in my head, starting with The Idiot.

Re: Damn it

Date: 2007-03-17 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chromeraven.livejournal.com
What a terrible, terrible state to be in. You might have listen to them to get rid of them! Maybe even twice!

Re: Damn it

Date: 2007-03-18 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
If you have a Microsoft Head, the songs will expire after three days or three plays.

-- Johan Larson

Date: 2007-03-17 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nicosian.livejournal.com
I'd rather be in space than halifax.( I am not from here only displaced here.)

Date: 2007-03-18 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krfsm.livejournal.com
Or, to put it as a Swedish-only webpage on a rather localised Swedish dialect put it: "I am not from here, I want to move from here." (although in that vernacular).

Date: 2007-03-19 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwpikul.livejournal.com
I realized something about this today:

If you're right, it means that the man in the moon really will be a Newfie.

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