I admit I did not watch either of these

[james_davis_nicoll]

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[mishalak]

Actually, Obama's victory speech was pretty nice. Magnanimous while realistic.

[supermouse]

I can never get over how the Obama family are when they appear in public together. Speech was nice and all, but hot damn.

Last dig, I promise

[the-blue-fenix.livejournal.com]

did I come in late, or was Romney's concession speech as short and perfunctory as such a speech could get and still accomplish the purpose?
Not to mention the double meaning inherent in "I'm praying for you," which can mean "that you change your ways which are obviously evil and going to send you to hell, not like me, nyah."
Oh, well. Onward to oblivion, Mitt.

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[ariaflame.livejournal.com]

It was apparently said that he didn't actually have a concession speech written, so it would have to have been written at short notice. Hence possibly the shortness.

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[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

Brevity is an asset in concession speeches, I think.

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[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

It was an improvement over Romney's farewell address when he quit the 2008 primary campaign, which was the instant at which Romney wholeheartedly switched over to Full Ranting Wingnut in preparation for 2012.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

No wonder he lost. His hubris brought on the wrath of the whatever, from high atop the thing.

[keithmm.livejournal.com]

I don't think it was necessarily hubris: the problem for many years has been that the Republicans have divorced themselves from reality and think that FoxNews, Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly are the only things out there telling the truth. Up to last night, they were utterly convinced they were winning, even though the polls were constantly telling them they barely had a chance, and it certainly wouldn't be the landslide they were babbling about even if he did pull it off.

There was a moment last night when all the networks called Ohio pretty much at the same time and the crowd at Romney's event started chanting for the big screens to be switched from showing CNN to FoxNews, as if that would magically change things.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

I didn't see it, but I hear that Karl Rove's onscreen meltdown when Ohio was called was epic.

[keithmm.livejournal.com]

Let's put it this way: Stewart and Colbert can probably each fill their shows tonight with nothing but talking about it.

It was so over the top that they were commenting on the other news channels about it, as it was going on. Rachel Maddow looked like she was barely restraining herself from laughing while talking about it.

Rove had another reason for the meltdown: at some point some of the people who gave him hundreds of millions of dollars are going to ask him what value, exactly, they got out of that investment.

[arielstarshadow.livejournal.com]

Surely there is video of this somewhere?

[jaylake.livejournal.com]

Here, among other places:

http://americablog.com/2012/11/must-watch-video-karl-rove-melts-down-on-fox.html

[ethelmay.livejournal.com]

Huh. I think you need to be more of an election nerd than I am to understand why that qualifies as a "meltdown." I was expecting something quite different from that description. He was in full denial mode, sure, but from what people were saying I was expecting, I dunno, swearing, throwing things, whatever.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

Having actually watched the video, I think the most striking thing about it is the way Megyn Kelly pushed back at Rove, walking back to the roomful of analysts with the camera following her. You don't normally see that kind of thing on Fox News; usually they're on message 100%.

I'm wondering exactly what happened there. Fox was inclined to be a bunch of Romney dead-enders, but there was evidently a limit to how far they were willing to go, and when Rove decided to go further it was time to cut him off.

[ethelmay.livejournal.com]

Huh. Maybe I saw the wrong video somehow, or mistakenly thought I had finished it when I hadn't? There was no woman in the video I saw, and the two men stayed in the same place the whole time. And now I can't get the link to load, so I can't check my memory. (This must on the whole be one of my more pointless comments ever, but what the hey.)

[arielstarshadow.livejournal.com]

...

He sounds like Porky the Pig.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

No, I think it was definitely the wrath of the whatever, from high atop the thing.

(It's a West Wing reference.)

[blpurdom.livejournal.com]

I detest superstition with every fiber of my being but I cannot deny the logic of this. You don't write a concession speech, then you get the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing and you can't blame anyone but yourself.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

It's not superstition if the wrath is measurable and repeatable!

[connactic.livejournal.com]

I think the big problem for the Republicans is that since Reagan they have had to cut a deal with social conservatives in order to get their candidates elected. Right now, that allows them to eke out elections but I think it will start to be less effective as the socially conservative people die off and are replaced by the younger generation of voters.

[neowolf2.livejournal.com]

Yes. In fact, if the US is undergoing the same secular (in both senses of that word) trend that Europe has gone through, where religion becomes something almost embarrassing, it means the GOP may be on the road to permanent decline.

Richard Dawkins will be happy.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

To some extent, and to an even greater extent, the Republican party became the party of angry white racists, and the racial makeup of the US is shifting, so this is no longer a winning ticket.

[joenotcharles.livejournal.com]

I just clicked on the Obama one, and it started playing "Party Rock Anthem". Turned out it was an ad, but for him to play that as his actual victory speech would have been GLORIOUS.

[roseembolism.livejournal.com]

When we were watching the Democratic HQ, the band was playing "How do You Like Me Now".

[neowolf2.livejournal.com]

Especially if they included dancing hamsters!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zJWA3Vo6TU

[http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/]

I did notice that when Fox News showed the Dems, they only picked camera views that showed the most un photogenic black people they could find. In fact, I don't recall seeing a single white person at the dem election center on fox. I did see multiple people if color, usually acting out and mugging the camera, many with missing teeth or poor fitting clothes.

The republican's shown were always immaculate dressed, cultured, acting dignified, and exclusively white.

[rpresser.livejournal.com]

It wasn't just Fox. ABC coverage was similar. Apparently the white people really weren't a large proportion of the Obama crowd.

[invunche.livejournal.com]

His pulse never got above 85, even when he gave his concession speech.