With all due respect to the people involved

[james_davis_nicoll]

Can we defer the Jim Baen (and Baen Books) bashing until his status is resolved? And I don't mean in terms of finding out which hospital he is in.

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[pir-anha.livejournal.com]

so bad shit happened to you. that sucks, and i am truly sorry it did. i have empathy for that sort of thing because bad shit happened to me, albeit committed by non-fen. but apparently that's irrelevant in your world view -- if bad shit happens to you, that entitles you to sweeping generalizations, but if bad shit happens to me, i am whining? what exquisite logic, and how fair-minded of you.

secondly, i am not part of fandom. i know james from elsewhere. i have friends who are fen, though, and i've certainly seen some fucked-up shit within fandom. but as i said, i've seen that and much worse outside of it. and from the outside looking in, i don't even buy the "poorly socialized" trope at all. if i were studying sociology, i'd be itching to do a paper on that; i think it's one of those pernicious stereotypes that could do with a lot more examination.

thirdly, bad shit happening to you excuses your rudeness here exactly how? did jim baen stalk you, accuse you of raping little boys, post your contact info in order to harass you? no? then why in the world are you pissing on him when he's down? did your parents buy that sort of excuse back in the days when you got your basic socialization training? i certainly don't. do you not realize how totally out of place that is, in fandom and outside? that james even needs to request you shut your trap at a time like this marks you as badly socialized to me; whether you're a fan or a "mundane" makes absolutely no difference. add to that your lack of empathy and self-centredness from above, and you've got three strikes against you. how many strikes does it take for you to consider somebody badly socialized?

suggestion: use that ax to work on the log in your own eye.

[mjlayman.livejournal.com]

You know, I covet your icon. The origami crane is sort of my signature. I'm planning to scan my sterling origami crane, though, so don't worry, I won't take your icon.