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WHY DID NOBODY INFORM ME THAT THERE IS A Worst Cooks in America SHOW? IT CAN HARDLY BE OTHER THAN AWESOME (although a canadian version would be even better. I MUST SEE THIS SHOW.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eagle
It sadly is only awesome for the first five episodes or so of each season, and then it turns into something more like a regular cooking reality show because everyone is doing reasonably well and it's all about their Emotional Growth and Self-Confidence.

But the first few episodes have some memorably horrific food.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bastets-place.livejournal.com
watching it right now. It is awesome. Vanilla chicken. awesome. Plus, some guy figured that if a pepper is green, it's sweet. Loving it.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kithrup.livejournal.com
Vanilla chicken!

I started watching it in the middle of the last season. I think James needs to see it.

Date: 2012-03-01 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nelc.livejournal.com
Is vanilla and chicken an inherently bad combination? Worse than say, lemon chicken or sweet and sour?

Date: 2012-03-01 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kithrup.livejournal.com
According to one of the coach-chefs on the show, yes.

Vanilla extract in particular; I suspect a good chef could in fact get vanilla in a chicken dish to work well.

Date: 2012-03-01 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
I like chicken. I like vanilla. Why shouldn't the go well together????

Date: 2012-03-01 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesaucernews.livejournal.com
The person who invented bacon ice-cream probably said the same thing.

Date: 2012-03-01 02:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] apis-mellifera.livejournal.com
Bacon ice cream is delicious--at least the recipe I've used is. It's a very sweet maple pecan ice cream with crunchy bits of bacon mixed in at the end--the saltiness of the bacon offsets the sweetness of the ice cream in a really nice way.

Date: 2012-03-01 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
Maple-Vanilla Bacon Wrapped Chicken!

God. That's either gonna be heavenly or awful

Date: 2012-03-02 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-angove.livejournal.com
Bacon ice-cream works amazingly well. Although I don't know why someone would think it wouldn't. At Baconfest last year one of the stations was ice cream[1] with an array of bacon toppings, and it was awesome.

I can't imagine vanilla chicken working at all well, though. Vanilla -even really good vanilla - is a really serious flavor when used in any quantity. And poultry can be unforgiving at the best of times; I made a Turkey night before last, (because I need stock, and therefor need the carcass), and my wife and I tossed around using garlic as a major flavor but rejected it because it could too easily be discordant. And honestly: M and I are pretty serious foodies, and pretty good cooks. Someone out there might be able to make Vanilla Chicken work, but I don't know who that person is, and I can't even conceive of what it would be like. If I were a contender for Worst Cooks in America, I certainly wouldn't try it. But then again, I'm familar with food.

[1]Almost certainly the ice cream was nominally vanilla, but IIRC, it was just "white". That is, it was a properly prepared ice cream with no pronounced flavor -just a sweet frozen stirred custard. Vanilla in small amounts is often an important base note in lost of sweet dishes, but used properly its actually a really pronounced and distinct flavor.

Date: 2012-03-01 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nelc.livejournal.com
I want to go out and get some vanilla now. And some chicken.

Date: 2012-03-01 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com
Internet suggests it's not uncommon in places (islands) that have both vanilla and chickens.

Sophie Grigson has a vanilla chicken recipe (of the scrape-out-a-vanilla-pod kind) available, so I should think that's yummy.

Round here, I'm rarely looking for things to use up leftover vanilla in, to put it mildly.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maruad.livejournal.com
I like lemon or sweet and sour with chicken. The lemon needs a lot of garlic to go with it though.

Date: 2012-03-01 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pperiwinkle.livejournal.com
"Plus, some guy figured that if a pepper is green, it's sweet."


There are plenty of folks who think that if a pepper is green, it's ripe. It was funny the first time I tried to explain that a green bell pepper is an unripe bell pepper, the 50th time it was a bit befuddling to realize how many people didn't understand that; and after the 100th time I began to feel like a voice in the wilderness.

Date: 2012-03-01 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
Most of the bell peppers I've ever seen (as pizza toppings or stuffed) were the variety that is green when ripe.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pperiwinkle.livejournal.com
There are no peppers that are green when ripe. There are tomatoes that are green when ripe, just google "gwr tomatoes for a whole list of them; but there are no gwr peppers.(Googling "gwr peppers" will get you lots of Guinness World Record references) A green bell pepper on pizza or stuffed is an unripe pepper. Left on the plant it would have ripened to red, yellow, orange, or slight variations of those colors. And there are peppers that go through a whole host of colors on the way to being ripe that are as ornamental as they are tasty. However, there are no peppers that are green when ripe. They are certainly edible when green, and there are varieties that are considered better eating before they fully ripen; but they are not ripe when they're green.

The idea that there is a bell pepper that stays green when ripe is on par with Big Foot sightings. Closer investigation always proves the variety in question ripens to red/orange/yellow. Or is a furry blanket in a cooler.

Date: 2012-03-01 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedrake.livejournal.com
Misread the title as "Worst _crooks_ in America." Which, really, is something James is equally likely to want to watch.

Quick everyone, placate James with something

Date: 2012-03-01 08:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My excuse for not providing information on this show is that I am not an American. To make up for this being a poor excuse, here is a wonderful story about giant insects hiding on an outcrop of rock surrounded by shark-infested waters near Australia.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2012/02/24/147367644/six-legged-giant-finds-secret-hideaway-hides-for-80-years

The relation to a cooking show is obviously that they look tasty. But I do think it's an interesting story on its own terms and the giant bugs are cute. Even though they are Australian, they are not even mad venomous and mean.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-neonta.livejournal.com
I do not think giant bugs are cute. Quite the opposite, really, and yet I followed the link. Why...

Date: 2012-03-01 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
I want to hug them because they cuddle each other! They should be called cuddling bugs and that would change everything—the only bugs that cuddle. I think plushy insects are exactly what we need more of—children should be playing with plushy grasshoppers and stick insects when small.

Date: 2012-03-01 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pperiwinkle.livejournal.com
I keep proposing ladybug larva stuffed animals, and all I get is weird looks. Ladybug larva look ferocious and deadly, so they are all too often killed by the uninformed. So, yeah, ladybug larva plushies would be great!

And yeah, cuddling bugs, how cool is that!

Date: 2012-03-01 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-mediocre.livejournal.com
Someone I know attempted a medieval recipe for Carob Trout. Thirty years ago and people still talk about it.

Date: 2012-03-01 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maruad.livejournal.com
I shudder because that reminds me of a chocolate beef stew someone made that I tried over 20 years ago. There is a reason many medieval recipes are no longer popular. Much like my teen-age habit of pouring a shot of cheap rye into a glass of generic draft beer before drinking it, chocolate and beef is just not a good idea.

Date: 2012-03-01 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/
The only problem with a show called "America's worse cooks" is that there is no way to really know how bad it is without smell-o-vision

British Version

Date: 2012-03-02 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's actually an American version of a British TV show (which was much better) called Kitchen Criminals.

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