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james_davis_nicoll20 more minutes of Plymouth!
Part 3
Well, Addie's secret is out. Should have kept her desk drawer locked.
Hands up everyone who expects Ernie to keep his mouth shut? Yeah, me neither.
Interesting thing about the Moon; all orbits around it eventually intersect the surface. Stations like the one we see would need station-keeping rockets (not powerful ones, mind you).
Man, this place has a lot of large open spaces.
I'm guessing everyone except Addie and her boyfriend Gil (?) knows the big secret is out. And also that everyone assumed Gil knew and is bailing on her.
AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
I mean, "I didn't realize enthusiasm about lunar helium 3 goes back to 1991. How interesting."
Was the no pregnancy rule mentioned before this? I guess this is why Addie is stressing out. Interesting implications behind the enforcement of that agreement. I am assuming that either the missing scene where Addie explains she is pregnant came before this or Gil really is the jerk everyone assumes he is.
You know what option hasn't been mentioned at all? An abortion.
THey do have to be worried about gravity-related issues for the fetus or at least the kid that results. Not a common issue in tv SF. I mean, not that you can tell it's 1/6th gee but that's a problematic sf/x except in animation.
What exactly is that monitor we see at 5:15 measuring?
Ah, "emigrate to the Moon and enjoy stoop labor". Does it hurt less to bend over in 1/6th gee?
Add the Mathewson kids to the list of people who have not heard the gossip yet. I think that makes the list "The Mathewsons and Gil."
Hey, a remotely piloted robot! That's unusual. Nice of them to provide a screen to show the operator's face.
Did Lynchfield just leave a hulking robot in the middle of the field or can it find its way home somehow?
Another thing that almost never shows up in programs like this? The time delay for radio and tv signals to do the Earth-Moon round trip.
There are a lot of very ugly eyeglasses in this show.
Please tell me the writer responsible for the "I love what you've done with your hair" line was suitably beaten.
I am shocked, shocked that people are disrespectful of the President.
It may be a bad sign that the mayor hates the idea of living on the Moon. But maybe that's how he got the job, playing the role of necessary skeptic.
The Simpsons has totally ruined the name Gil for me.
You know what's missing? Cell phones, smart phones, all that stuff. What are we missing that will be ubiquitous in 2030?
Part 4
I am afraid, Addie, that it may well be too late to keep the other kids from hearing that you are pregnant.
0:52 reminds me a lot of a scene in 2001....
A father and son pilot team?
God damn! Unidak couldn't spring for chairs and desks for their schools? You cheap bastards!
Another huge gallery goes by... I hope these people have a basketball court to take advantage of the 1/6th gee.
Look at the total lack of unnecessary streamling on that shuttle! Although I think the pilots might want a better downward view than they are given. Well, once the inability to see what exactly the lander's legs are doing causes a horrific accident, Unidak will add downward facing cameras or something to the design. Still, not a bad look for the Lunar shuttle.
How long has that Lunar roller design been around in SF? I know it's on the cover of an old Arthur C. Clarke collection I have.
Again, really impressed by the amount of effort Unidak appears to have put into making stuff look like crap. That's one ugly arrivals lounge. I mean -by the standards of modern airports- that's one ugly arrivals lounge.
OK, a hat tip to the low gravity. A bad one but they do acknowledge it.
There are elements of this show I like. Not the dialog, though.
4:45ish: "PUT YOUR BOOTS ON RIGHT AWAY"? They're actually wearing HEAVY BOOTS to keep from floating away on the Moon. I hope their science advisor had the grace to weep bitter tears at that point.
Oh, Mayor Skeptic is just a seat warmer. Poor guy.
5:07. They do indeed wear heavy boots on the Moon. Boots that look just like snowmobile boots spraypainted silver; there's a really weird mix of expensive props and total crap props on this show.
The cultural norms in this community seem to involve a lot more close contact between family members than I would expect.
226 TV channels but no desks for the schools....
Is that a Moon Hot Rod? Or at least a Lunar Jalopy? HE PUT A ROCKET ON IT? Definitely a hot rod. I anticipate potential hilarity here; what are the odds he bothered to model or test how much thrust he will get from the rocket? But killing the teen lovers in a horrible and preventable accident probably would alienate viewers.
OK, he was smart enough to test it before taking the girl he's sweet on out for a spin.
How the heck does his boss keep doing that? Cock-blocking bastard. Have we seen CCTVs?
Part 3
Well, Addie's secret is out. Should have kept her desk drawer locked.
Hands up everyone who expects Ernie to keep his mouth shut? Yeah, me neither.
Interesting thing about the Moon; all orbits around it eventually intersect the surface. Stations like the one we see would need station-keeping rockets (not powerful ones, mind you).
Man, this place has a lot of large open spaces.
I'm guessing everyone except Addie and her boyfriend Gil (?) knows the big secret is out. And also that everyone assumed Gil knew and is bailing on her.
AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
I mean, "I didn't realize enthusiasm about lunar helium 3 goes back to 1991. How interesting."
Was the no pregnancy rule mentioned before this? I guess this is why Addie is stressing out. Interesting implications behind the enforcement of that agreement. I am assuming that either the missing scene where Addie explains she is pregnant came before this or Gil really is the jerk everyone assumes he is.
You know what option hasn't been mentioned at all? An abortion.
THey do have to be worried about gravity-related issues for the fetus or at least the kid that results. Not a common issue in tv SF. I mean, not that you can tell it's 1/6th gee but that's a problematic sf/x except in animation.
What exactly is that monitor we see at 5:15 measuring?
Ah, "emigrate to the Moon and enjoy stoop labor". Does it hurt less to bend over in 1/6th gee?
Add the Mathewson kids to the list of people who have not heard the gossip yet. I think that makes the list "The Mathewsons and Gil."
Hey, a remotely piloted robot! That's unusual. Nice of them to provide a screen to show the operator's face.
Did Lynchfield just leave a hulking robot in the middle of the field or can it find its way home somehow?
Another thing that almost never shows up in programs like this? The time delay for radio and tv signals to do the Earth-Moon round trip.
There are a lot of very ugly eyeglasses in this show.
Please tell me the writer responsible for the "I love what you've done with your hair" line was suitably beaten.
I am shocked, shocked that people are disrespectful of the President.
It may be a bad sign that the mayor hates the idea of living on the Moon. But maybe that's how he got the job, playing the role of necessary skeptic.
The Simpsons has totally ruined the name Gil for me.
You know what's missing? Cell phones, smart phones, all that stuff. What are we missing that will be ubiquitous in 2030?
Part 4
I am afraid, Addie, that it may well be too late to keep the other kids from hearing that you are pregnant.
0:52 reminds me a lot of a scene in 2001....
A father and son pilot team?
God damn! Unidak couldn't spring for chairs and desks for their schools? You cheap bastards!
Another huge gallery goes by... I hope these people have a basketball court to take advantage of the 1/6th gee.
Look at the total lack of unnecessary streamling on that shuttle! Although I think the pilots might want a better downward view than they are given. Well, once the inability to see what exactly the lander's legs are doing causes a horrific accident, Unidak will add downward facing cameras or something to the design. Still, not a bad look for the Lunar shuttle.
How long has that Lunar roller design been around in SF? I know it's on the cover of an old Arthur C. Clarke collection I have.
Again, really impressed by the amount of effort Unidak appears to have put into making stuff look like crap. That's one ugly arrivals lounge. I mean -by the standards of modern airports- that's one ugly arrivals lounge.
OK, a hat tip to the low gravity. A bad one but they do acknowledge it.
There are elements of this show I like. Not the dialog, though.
4:45ish: "PUT YOUR BOOTS ON RIGHT AWAY"? They're actually wearing HEAVY BOOTS to keep from floating away on the Moon. I hope their science advisor had the grace to weep bitter tears at that point.
Oh, Mayor Skeptic is just a seat warmer. Poor guy.
5:07. They do indeed wear heavy boots on the Moon. Boots that look just like snowmobile boots spraypainted silver; there's a really weird mix of expensive props and total crap props on this show.
The cultural norms in this community seem to involve a lot more close contact between family members than I would expect.
226 TV channels but no desks for the schools....
Is that a Moon Hot Rod? Or at least a Lunar Jalopy? HE PUT A ROCKET ON IT? Definitely a hot rod. I anticipate potential hilarity here; what are the odds he bothered to model or test how much thrust he will get from the rocket? But killing the teen lovers in a horrible and preventable accident probably would alienate viewers.
OK, he was smart enough to test it before taking the girl he's sweet on out for a spin.
How the heck does his boss keep doing that? Cock-blocking bastard. Have we seen CCTVs?
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Date: 2011-05-18 06:09 am (UTC)They did try to keep some of the science moderately straight... ish... for a while, and they did handle the pregnancy subplot better than this.
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:42 pm (UTC)Would it be totally scummy of me if I offered to review one movie or three tv episodes [1] of choice for anyone who wanted to cough up that month's netflix subscription?
1: I might go a whole miniseries if it's one of those British ones.
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Date: 2011-05-18 06:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 08:27 pm (UTC)But I'd be up for such an experiment, along the Send Scalzi to the Creation Museum lines if it's Send James Never Ending Piles of Crap Media SF to write about and Thus Entertain Me variety :)
Jupiter Moon is only available on DVD here not streaming...
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Date: 2011-05-18 08:30 pm (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/show?p=TPatrKP1rVA&s=1
Not sure how many episodes are up though...
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Date: 2011-05-18 08:35 pm (UTC)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098835/videogallery?page=2
Not sure if that works outside the US though... I know a fix for that.
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Date: 2011-05-18 08:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 10:57 pm (UTC)The Daedalus guys* were planning to run liquefaction plants within Jupiter to obtain their helium-3. Lunar regolith had not been considered a likely source before 1986.
This would involve dangling the works from hot-hydrogen aerostats, and loading the product into muscular rockets of some kind.
Jupiter's not the best place to do this. Uranus would offer a shallower gravity well for shipping helium upstairs.
*All guys. There were no women, so far as I know, designing starships in the British Interplanetary Society in the 1970s.
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Date: 2011-05-19 12:52 am (UTC)It was generally tosh but had some nice insights. There was a scene where for one reason or another they were considering using a nuke and some of the students were protesting. The ships captain turned on them and said something to the effect of "you do know that's Jupiter Out there? this thing won't even register above the background radiation!"
He was right too.
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Date: 2011-05-19 05:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 03:42 pm (UTC)How else is he going to jump the lunar rivers to get away from the sherrif while running bootleg He3 Moonshine?
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Date: 2011-05-18 03:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-18 04:51 pm (UTC)