Because only awesomeness can come from googling sarah palin egypt

[james_davis_nicoll]

From the lips of America's next President:

"And nobody yet has, nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know, and surely they know more than the rest of us know who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak and no, not, not real enthused about what it is that that's being done on a national level and from DC in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt. And, in these areas that are so volatile right now, because obviously it's not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings, we know that now more than ever, we need strength and sound mind there in the White House. We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And, we do not have all that information yet."

On a completely unrelated note


I'm linking to this Card essay on talk radio because I have an honest question: has Card always been this cool on Huckabee?

Comments

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

My eyes crossed just reading that. The only meaning I could glean from it is that America is very important so we need to know who to support because they can't do much without America.

[jwgh]

I think it might mean "The US government knows more about what's going on in Egypt than it's saying."

[http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/]

A Palin Word Salad Magarita with a Card Highball chaser...

You're one mean bartender, aren't you?

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

I wish Livejournal had a LIKE button.

[scott-sanford.livejournal.com]

I actually tried to share this on facebook. Alas, it's twice as long as they allow.

That probably goes far to explain facebook contents; when the medium simply doesn't allow deeply explored thoughts - or the quote above, which isn't - people won't use it for expressing such ideas. Has there been a reformulation of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis for digital media?

[carloshasanax.livejournal.com]

I honestly don't recall, but it wouldn't surprise me: Huckabee is a Southern Baptist minister and he has made traditionally Southern Baptist disparaging remarks about Mormon theology.

I would guess Huckabee might as well have made a DVD commentary track to The God Makers as far as Card is concerned.

Can't wait for the sixth and seventh generations of the Sea Org.

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

Many conservatives also dislike Huckabee because he believes that an inseparable part of Christianity is caring for the poor, and extends this principle to the Government. He also believes that God expects us to conserve the Earth.

"seeds that are birdfood in the feeder become weeds when they're growing in the soil underneath it."

Not if you buy sterilized birdfood; I'm pretty sure I've bought millet, for instance, that's been heat-treated to prevent germination.

He just needs to know that along with them comes a mess, no matter where he puts them.

Er.... yes. You will find very few obsessive-compulsive birds.

"[Fox has] ... scrupulously balanced news coverage all the rest of the time"

I think I broke something.

"Does he think there's no welfare available to the poor?"

Are there no workhouses?

[jwgh]

I believe Card also believes in the government caring for the poor, but I forget what he thinks about environmentalism.

[skapusniak.livejournal.com]

The idea of Mike Huckabee doing a DVD commentary track to a filmic or televisual adaptation of Frank Herbert's The God Makers that I had previously not encountered, slightly blew my mind a for a moment there. Then I clicked the link and discovered what you actually meant.

Ah, right. Sorry, carry on.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

Southern Baptist-vs-Mormon friction keeps coming up in the context of Mitt Romney's various presidential runs. I've never had a good enough handle on how serious a political problem it would be for him, were he the real Republican frontrunner. Maybe we'll have to find out the hard way.

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

My impression is that the religious-conservative base won't touch him, it being an article of faith that Mormons aren't Christians. Without that base, I'm not sure -- me, the universal expert speaking -- anybody can get nominated in the modern Republican party.

[carloshasanax.livejournal.com]

These days? certainly. This is the party which has a wing that accuses conservative activist Grover Norquist of being a secret Muslim. If circumcision weren't the norm among American men, I'd bet they demand he drop trou. Not only does the base employ religious tests, it employs insane religious tests.

It would be interesting to see how a modern Mo Udall would perform generally. Mormons aren't a monolith, and most of them have traditional mainline Protestant values. They do feel culturally embattled, though, and the Republican Party caters to that.

[traviswells.livejournal.com]

"If circumcision weren't the norm among American men, I'd bet they demand he drop trou."

Maybe we could use this to finally kill off male circumcision as standard practice in the US? Just convince the party leaders that it's an effective way to detect SECRET MUSLIMS (and for no extra charge we'll throw in jews, too!)

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

Too much collateral damage, I think.

[mindstalk.livejournal.com]

which has a wing that accuses conservative activist Grover Norquist of being a secret Muslim

what

[carloshasanax.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the Terrordome. It starts there, goes through Michelle Malkin and assorted other professional bigots, and now the freak show has jackasses claiming Norquist is practicing taqiyya after marrying one of those people -- a Kuwaiti-American assistant director of USAID during the W administration -- and you know how the spouse always converts to the Religion of Peace.

It's like something from the 1930s.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

Heck, Mitt Romney himself isn't a monolith. Right now he seems to be trying to simultaneously position himself as a Tea Partier and as the counterprogramming to the Tea Partiers.

[carloshasanax.livejournal.com]

I suspect one of the Romney boys, or one of the many young Mormon Obama supporters -- e.g., Brady Poppinga -- will put this to the test in two, three decades. but American demographics will have changed too much to know what the response would be today.

[agent-mimi.livejournal.com]

My experience with Southern Baptist religion -- grew up around them and had an ex-Southern Baptist dad -- is that they have some sort of beef with MOST religious. The further away from Southern Baptist ideology the other religion is, the more they hate it. Roman Catholics, Mormons, and Jews are especially hated, but Protestants are tolerated as merely misguided. My dad dropped the church by the 1950s, yet the culture was so ingrained that was still suspicious of the Mormon family that moved in next door to us in the late 1980s. It's probably going to be difficult for Romney overcome the attitudes of that culture.

Note to everyone: Please do not mistake this comment as sympathy for Mittens.

[mmcirvin.livejournal.com]

As the atheist kid of lapsed Other Kind Of Baptists, I find they've mostly thought of me as conversion fodder.

[nancylebov.livejournal.com]

That's just about totally incoherent. And yet, she's probably right that we don't know as much as we think we do.

[beamjockey.livejournal.com]

I tried to arrange her utterances in the form of verse. Works better.

[http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/]

Hmmm.. I wonder if we can infer her thoughts from the random jingoisms she seemingly is spouting out:

"And nobody yet has, nobody yet has explained to the American public what they know
> People are stupid unless told what to think.

, and surely they know more than the rest of us know
> But I need to make them feel good about their ignorance, complement them.

who it is who will be taking the place of Mubarak
> Quick, say something topical!

and no, not, not real enthused about what it is that that's being done on a national level
> don't use the "I" word, never use it, the speach coaches must be right some of the time.

and from DC
> opps, off topic, get back to nailing the big 'O'.

in regards to understanding all the situation there in Egypt.
> oh right, we're talking about Egypt not 'I' and election to DC.

And, in these areas that are so volatile right now,
> Yes, nailed the fore-shadowing of danger on that one!

because obviously it's not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings,
> Need to sound connected on a world stage, I R important

we know that now more than ever,
> hey, look! I making us know what we don't know, go me!

we need strength and sound mind there in the White House.
> whew, avoided the 'I' word again, go me!

We need to know what it is that America stands for
> stand together behind me!

so we know who it is that America will stand with.
> so I woun't be standing alone

And, we do not have all that information yet."
> out of time, quickly wrap up about not knowing since they need ME to know.

[t-guy.livejournal.com]

Good translation, butthere is one line I'd like to submit an alternate interpretation of:

Palin: "because obviously it's not just Egypt but the other countries too where we are seeing uprisings,"

which you construe as

"Need to sound connected on a world stage, I R important"

I think might actually be Palinese for "Shit, I can't remember the name of any other country."

[(Anonymous)]

In fairness to the former governor, if someone were to accurately transcribe my spoken words I'm sure it would look something like this most of the time. But in context (I presume) people can follow what I'm going on about.

[firstfrost.livejournal.com]

"And nobody yet has, nobody yet has explained"

This bit in particular looks to me like a stammer, and the sort of thing I would say if speaking extemporaneously; it feels mean-spirited to me to leave it in the transcript, though I don't know what reporting convention does with this sort of thing (or "um") normally.

[roseembolism.livejournal.com]

This is the way the Palin speaks
This is the way the Palin speaks
Not with a bang but with a stammer

[ross-teneyck.livejournal.com]

Yeah, this. Almost anyone sounds like an idiot if you faithfully transcribe their unprepared statements. It's a cheap shot.

Besides, the former governor is perfectly capable of sounding like an idiot in prepared speeches and in writing. Why resort to rhetorical low blows when she leads with her rhetorical chin so often?

[beamjockey.livejournal.com]

You're linking to a site quoting a conservative American politician, with a byline that sources a highly liberal American publication, operating from a domain registered to IRAN? My head is spinning.

[skapusniak.livejournal.com]

Now we just need to get Mike Huckabee to do the DVD commentary track.

[beamjockey.livejournal.com]

*explodes*

[alexx-kay.livejournal.com]

"We need to know what it is that America stands for so we know who it is that America will stand with. And, we do not have all that information yet."

Seems to me that she is taking the (IMO accurate) position that America doesn't know what its own core values are, and this makes it difficult to form coherent policy. Of course, that may be an accident, where she meant to convey something else entirely.

[kuangning]

I am almost certain that she meant to convey something else entirely; that entire statement read to me as a complaint about the lack of posturing and side-choosing Obama's doing. We all know Bush would already have declared us firmly behind/against a side by now; her statement read to me as "why haven't you told us who we're for yet?"

[agent-mimi.livejournal.com]

It's just too coherent compared to the rest of it: "We need to know what it is that America stands FOR so we know who it is that America will stand WITH." I honestly think that was one of her (probably several) prepared catchphrases, the one she apparently thought most easily fit the topic.

[pperiwinkle.livejournal.com]

"...Fox News Channel for cable TV, with conservative and libertarian commentators at night and scrupulously balanced news coverage all the rest of the time (which independent monitors have verified again and again -- Fox News is the only television coverage that even tries to be even-handed)."


Say what?

[tavella.livejournal.com]

Forget it, Jake, it's Cardtown.

[http://users.livejournal.com/krin_o_o_/]

In the Cardiverse, all things are plausible.