Oh my, yes.

Date: 2023-05-29 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lsanderson
A lot of what they do are bad ideas, but then they're kids. It seemed quite adult for Disney to let them be that bad, and not punish them any more than to separate them in time and space, which was in the works from the get-go. (I'm not sure that actual kids growing up on the moon would be quite as careless, but that's a whole other issue.)

Date: 2023-05-29 02:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kedamono
Let's list the things that I find wrong in this short clip:

1. Glass Dome on the Moon. Yes, there is a bit of an underground portion, but there's also that huge complex the kids drive by. One good solar flare and everyone's dead.

2. Cold Equations Level of Security. Five teenagers manage to steal a rover and drive out on the surface and no one chases after them? Doesn't the rover have remote operation capabilities?

3. The Earth Girl is Different. For some reason her spacesuit is a different model. Also, spacesuits tailored to fit those kids? Teenagers grow bigger, and those kids look to be around 11-13, so that's money down the drain on any suit their parents buy for them. And how much suit training did these kids have? I'll guarantee that at least one of the kids slept through "Spacesuits: Your Personal Spaceship" training video.

4. All Teenagers Are Daredevils. Especially males. Oh lord, the boys are all jackasses. But since it's on Disney, no one will get hurt or injured. But, yeah, playing baseball with a rock and a piece of rebar for bat? (Where did they get the rebar from?)

5. Space Travel Cliche #213: Deadly Meteor Shower! From the looks of it, it's raining fist sized rocks on those kids. From the video it looks as dangerous as an avalanche. In reality those rocks are moving at 11km/s to 72km/s. Impact is between 300MJ to 1.2GJ. Anywhere from a 1kg of gunpowder to 60kg of high explosive. Their rover would have been destroyed by either impact. Also, that storm would have cover a sizable area of the Moon, so their home would have been within that radius of impact. Bye-bye dome!

6. Gravity Indoors. From the looks of it, they have Earth level gravity in their habitats, but not outside. And kids raised on the Moon would have breadsticks for bones and limp linguini noodles for muscles. No way they could jump that high and not snap a bone on landing.

Overall, I give this movie a "Why waste the electrons watching this?" rating.
Edited Date: 2023-05-29 02:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-05-29 09:25 pm (UTC)
neotoma: Neotoma albigula, the white-throated woodrat! [default icon] (Default)
From: [personal profile] neotoma
3. The kid says he's never been outside... which seems like a criminally negligent level of survival training for people on a Moonbase.

Date: 2023-06-04 10:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
This concerns me too. It seems implausible at best that they wouldn't require everyone to gain basic spacesuit operation skills. Every society I know tries to teach children basic "don't get killed" rules.

Maybe it could be rephrased as him never being outside solo before, which at least seems plausible. Most outdoor activities would have an adult around somewhere, in case of unexpected events.

Date: 2023-05-29 10:52 pm (UTC)
armiphlage: Ukraine (Default)
From: [personal profile] armiphlage
"For some reason her spacesuit is a different model." - this could be handwaved if suit manufacturing was on Earth, so the new arrival would have the latest fashions, while the locals would have older hand-me-downs.

Date: 2023-06-04 10:54 am (UTC)
scott_sanford: (Default)
From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
> 2. Cold Equations Level of Security. Five teenagers manage to steal a rover and drive out on the surface and no one chases after them? Doesn't the rover have remote operation capabilities?

On the grounds that the adults shouldn't be total idiots, I'm going to propose several ideas:

a) The "theft" isn't nearly as hard as the kids think it was. The escape drama may have been mostly theatrical, and possibly made up by the kids.

b) The rover has a tracking device and relevant adults know exactly where it is. (And another tracking device in every suit, and over-watch by satellites. There's no reason to lose a moving object out on the surface.)

c) The rover has a communications system, and a backup, and an emergency backup. (The suits should have this much.) It's very likely that relevant adults can hear everything the kids say and see much of what they do, if they care to.

d) The rover has both a remote operation mode and a robotic system for driving itself home when an authorized user tells it to.

e) The only reason the kids don't know the three previous points is because none of them thought to RTFM.

I do like the rover's hard controls, though. There's a lot to be said for big physical switches that can be checked by sight or touch.

Date: 2023-05-29 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ba_munronoe
...the fact that the Earth has blue skies is somehow in doubt?

Is there some sort of interplanetary news blackout and banning of Earth-made entertainment of all sorts? (Actually, that might be necessary, or the kids might start questioning why the hell they have to live on the Moon. :) )

Date: 2023-05-29 05:39 pm (UTC)
patrick_morris_miller: Me, filking in front of mundanes (Default)
From: [personal profile] patrick_morris_miller

Why, when I could just reread the moonwalk chapter from Have Space Suit - Will Travel?

Date: 2023-05-29 08:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bunsen_h
And Growing Up Weightless.

Date: 2023-05-30 04:37 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Why is the dad telling his 14 year old son to do something so incredibly dangerous? I hope the mom sues for full custody and no contact.

-Awesome Aud

Date: 2023-06-04 10:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
I admit that I did not expect the Florida Man demographic to be so verbose in the Youtube comments, or so wildly triggered.

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