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Wizards of the Coast launching new ‘adult fantasy’ imprint

The initial line-up consists of:

Firefly Rain, by Richard Dansky

Last Dragon, by J.M. McDermott

The Man on the Ceiling, by Steve Rasnic Tem and Melanie Tem

Devil’s Cape, by Rob Rogers

The Angel of Death in Chicago by J. Robert King

Nicked from Doug Muir

Date: 2007-06-13 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tomscud.livejournal.com
Y'know, "adult fantasy" really has unfortunate connotations.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-guy.livejournal.com
Whichever meaning one might have in mind.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
Adult as in non-YA, or adult as in pr0n?

Date: 2007-06-13 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Imagines what WOTC porn would be like. Breaks brain.

I imagine they mean non-YA.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
One can only hope.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
"With my boom shaka boom shaka shaka modifier, that's a twenty! All women within 30 feet of me are seduced!"

Date: 2007-06-13 07:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
Oh, it's worse than that.

Gangbanger [General, Sex]
You love group sex and excel at it... the more the merrier!
Prerequisite: Staying Power
Benefit: The character gains a +2 competency bonus to Acrobatics and Seduction checks for each sexual partner in addition to the first when engaged in group sex activities. You also gain a +1 bonus for every sex partner (including yourself) to Staying Power Fortitude saves.

Staying Power [General, Sex]
You can keep going all day and all night.
Prerequisite: Sexual Prowess
Benefit: When engaging in sexual activities, you can remain tireless and "turned on" for one hour per Constitution bonus. When you reach the end of the time period, you can roll a Fort save (DC12) to keep going for an additional number of hours equal to your Constitution bonus. The DC for the Fort save increases by +4 for each time beyond the first time it is used in a 24-hour period. Once the Fort save has been failed, the character slips into a deeply satisfying sleep for 1d8+4 hours.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
"If parents really wanted to keep their sons from getting the neighbor girl pregnant, the best thing they could have done was buy them several Dio albums and the AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide." -- Chuck Klosterman, Fargo Rock City.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
My first pregnancy scare was with the guy who introduced me to D&D, so this may only hold for those who like D&D and Dio.

Date: 2007-06-13 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carloshasanax.livejournal.com
I think you need both components to maintain the virginator field. Klosterman was, how to put this, anorgasmic while awake until the age of 20. He writes for Esquire now.

Date: 2007-06-13 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-larson.livejournal.com
This one time, at band camp Gen Con...

Date: 2007-06-13 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
What the f*ck, I told you not to message me again!

Date: 2007-06-13 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ross-teneyck.livejournal.com
Yeah, they need a term like "grown-up fantasy" or something.

Back when I used to read the anime newsgroups, every once in a while someone would ask for recommendations for "adult anime." On those occasions when what they actually meant was "not made for kids," hilarity would ensue.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phanatic.livejournal.com
Isn't publishing endless amounts of crappy fiction what killed TSR in the first place?

Date: 2007-06-13 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tomscud.livejournal.com
It also involved some sort of really stupid business decisions, something involving massive amounts of returns from vastly over-printing and shipping something or other.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
As I recall the legends, Random House stopped returning TSR novels for a long time, which gave TSR the false impression that they could print any crap and it would sell. This illusion was shattered when Random House did the return from hell shortly before TSR fell over dead.

Date: 2007-06-13 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
We don't actually know that these will be bad. GW managed to publish some decent fantasy.

The bad fiction was a significant part of TSR's demise (and the Grand Return of a million dollars worth of dud books was the final blow) but only part. Loraine-era TSR was unusually rich in self-defeating policies, from dumping authors for being too popular with the readers to producing RPG products no sane person would predict a market for.

Date: 2007-06-13 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phanatic.livejournal.com
And let's not forget, threatening to sue fans for doing things like playing the game and sharing what they created.

Date: 2007-06-13 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llennhoff.livejournal.com
Rich Dansky was in charge of Wraith:The Oblivion for 2nd edition as well as author of the Holocaust supplement for Wraith. I'll be curious to see what his take on Southern Gothic horror is.

Date: 2007-06-13 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
Dear Ghu. And the only two SF books in the SFBC flier that arrived today were Star Wars (bah) and the Hartwell/Cramer 12th Best SF. I ordered the latter, and the scary part is that this flier was set up by Ellen and Andy. Who knows what comes next?

Date: 2007-06-14 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrewwheeler.livejournal.com
Actually, we considered The Number of the Beast, 1634: The Baltic War and Boomsday to be also SF.

(And Soon I Will Be Invincible, in the Altiverse catalog, is at least debatable...)

Date: 2007-06-14 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
I prefer to think of the magic, including the stuff the Not-Narnians had, in Soon I Will Be Invincible to be a special case of the weird science found elsewhere in the book. We don't how it works - yet- but only because it has not been properly studied. To me, it's SF.

By properly studied, I mean studied by people not suffering from malign hypercognition syndrome.

Date: 2007-06-14 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mjlayman.livejournal.com
You're right, the first three are SF, but I don't like reading those authors and I skipped right by them. Somehow I don't think Rome is going to buy more SF from authors I like.

I'm afraid...

Date: 2007-06-13 10:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seawasp
... that Mr. McDermott's entry has a title that is already completely taken in my meme space. He cannot replace the power of the Glow!

Re: I'm afraid...

Date: 2007-06-17 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Lots of books around with "Last" and "Dragon" in the title, too. It's probably going to be rife with Dragonlance and Eragon cliches.

Honestly, you'd think dragons would be wiped out by now since they've been on the brink so very many times.

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