Date: 2014-09-29 09:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
Well, the kind of disaster we're in now, I think.

Date: 2014-09-29 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of an economic depression. Massive deflation, crowds of desperate unemployed to serve you, and things are actually great for anyone sitting on a huge pile of money, which becomes extremely valuable.

Date: 2014-09-30 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
I wonder if fears of hyperinflation are common in those circles. Some generic stereotypical redneck might ride out this economic disaster still in possession of his truck, farm, shotgun, and dog; owning a bank account full of numbers and many stock certificates from failed companies would not be so satisfying.

Date: 2014-09-29 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mmcirvin.livejournal.com
Also, there are the individual disasters of getting old, acquiring a serious medical problem, having kids to put through college with exploding tuition, etc. From a pure Prisoner's Dilemma perspective, it may be that the only way to manage it is to become loaded.

But it's not actually difficult-but-possible to have a gigantic income unless you have some good luck to begin with. For most people, it's completely impossible.


Date: 2014-09-30 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com
Those aren't disasters in the hoarding-bags-of-beans sense at all, though. I was thinking of social breakdowns, plagues, nuclear explosions, failure of the banking system, that kind of thing. And I have to say, I know many, many people who are rich enough to afford college and retirement and such with relative ease, and none of them is remotely near the million-a-year mark.

Date: 2014-09-29 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com
I'm not happy about the current state of the US (nor of lots of other countries), but I wouldn't say it's disaster time for 98.8 percent of people, either. Not yet.

Date: 2014-09-30 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruce munro (from livejournal.com)
How are you defining disastrous? It's easy to say things are not too bad if your standard is, say, an African warlord rampage zone.

(Hm. Perhaps that came off a little harsh. What I mean to say is that it came off to me a little dismissive of the bottom 20% which are barely hanging on by their fingernails.)
Edited Date: 2014-09-30 01:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-09-30 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com
I only meant to sound dismissive toward Rose's Mr. Millions, not anyone else. It just seems to me there's a difference between a depression and a prepper-scenario disaster, as I said in a comment above.

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