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I encountered these interesting discussions of environmentalism in SF.


In fact, I see I came in at the wrong end of the Puchalsky discussion:

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Given what people on metafilter think of me, I'd to clarify that I fall into the "anthropogenic climate change is real, nothing will be done about it, some degree of change is therefore inevitable, only realizable strategies involve adapting to the new conditions" camp. Granted, easier to do this hundreds of meters above sea level in an area that very well may not be desertified.

The quotation from Adam Roberts' "Anti-Coperniucus" reminded me a lot of Inherit the Earth

Date: 2011-09-18 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
I'm not going to say what book it was because it isn't out yet but I was a little surprised when a book I read in the last year had a massive genocide of a specific sort of human in it and the moral turned out to not be "genocide is bad" but "make sure you've killed them all 'cause those guys really keep grudges." It's part of a series so it's possible this will evolve into a quite different position [1] but the protagonist gets mental contact with one of the survivors and the survivor is basically a total monster that needs killing.

(I will ID the publisher in a negative sense: it was not from Baen)

1: The one I am expecting is "Saying 'nobody could have survived that' is no replacement for actually locating the body."

Date: 2011-09-18 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
Ick. It's sad that I'd be very surprised if the author wasn't from the US.

Date: 2011-09-18 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
There's a reason why "but not as bad as Lothar von Trotha" is a sentiment I've used in reviews.

Date: 2011-09-18 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
But I don't think it's particularly American, although I grant a total rejection of anything even faintly resembling compassion is a core part of being a true American; an eagerness to slaughter entire groups to which one does not belong is an established human behavior.

Date: 2011-09-18 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com
We all know that "Nobody could have survived that!" means
"He'll be back. Soon." Don't these people read comics or watch action movies?

"A dynamic character with the ability to survive certain death and a questionable death scene leaving no corpse? Face it, we'll never see HER again." - Riff in this Sluggy Freelance strip

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