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Apr. 19th, 2007
Ten quatloos on Nick Mamatas!
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Ten quatloos on Nick Mamatas!
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Ten quatloos on Nick Mamatas!
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Wait, no. That's not it.
I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to say that there doesn't seem to be much in the way of the young adult material that hooked people like me on SF back in the 1970s (and of course, part of the 1970s being the very best decade for getting hooked on SF was that material from as far back as the 1950s was still on library shelves). Yes, there's Tor's Starscape and TOr Teen but that's one publisher, albeit a big one. Could the general lack of young adult material be linked to the, hrm, grognardism seen over at SFWA?
I don't mean cause and effect but symptoms of the same process.
I seem to recall that one of the ideas behind Dozois' Escape from Earth: New Adventures in Space was that it might be interesting to create fun material aimed at young adults that wasn't condescending (Now, three of the stories used poverty to drive the plot and two of them used slavery but that just raises the stakes for the protagonists. People still remember Citizen of the Galaxy fondly and Thorby starts off a poor slave). I like the idea behind the anthology but why in the 21st century should that premise be unusual enough to get mentioned in the introduction?
[Added later: For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to exclude fantasy. I freely admit that there are problematic edge cases in classification.]
Without checking
Apr. 19th, 2007 05:36 pmHow many people here who are under 40 know what a chesterfield is?
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
Without checking
Apr. 19th, 2007 05:36 pmHow many people here who are under 40 know what a chesterfield is?
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
Without checking
Apr. 19th, 2007 05:36 pmHow many people here who are under 40 know what a chesterfield is?
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
[Explanation: I was looking for the piece of furniture and testing to see if something I was told is true, that you can tell how old a Canadian is by their use or non-use of that word in that way. There's also a vowel shift that happened in the urban middle-class accent but I can never rememebr how to test for it]
In other news
Apr. 19th, 2007 08:23 pmThe U.S. Supreme Court upheld the nationwide ban on a controversial abortion procedure Wednesday, handing abortion opponents the long-awaited victory they expected from a more conservative bench.
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?
In other news
Apr. 19th, 2007 08:23 pmThe U.S. Supreme Court upheld the nationwide ban on a controversial abortion procedure Wednesday, handing abortion opponents the long-awaited victory they expected from a more conservative bench.
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?
In other news
Apr. 19th, 2007 08:23 pmThe U.S. Supreme Court upheld the nationwide ban on a controversial abortion procedure Wednesday, handing abortion opponents the long-awaited victory they expected from a more conservative bench.
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?
Am I reading this bit correctly? Does
More than one million abortions are performed in the United States each year, according to recent statistics. Nearly 90 per cent of those occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and are not affected by Wednesday's ruling.
mean that on the order of 100,000 abortions a year will be affected by this ruling?