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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2016-04-26 04:20 pm

The 2016 Hugo Finalists

Once again, I am a mere background figure, not even a red shirt. But there are some interesting works up for Hugo, as well as puppy crap destined to place below no award.
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we need e pluribus hugo

[personal profile] solarbird 2016-04-27 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
I want this to put to rest the canard that a bigger fandom turnout would solve everything.

We got that bigger turnout, and it was from fandom in general. It was huge. Twice as many nominators as last year, and it does not matter because one party vs. unorganised candidates always produces overwhelming party victory. And it just did, again.

I have a proposal for how to respond this year, of course. And, as I said above, this demonstrates how much we need e pluribus hugo, because an exploit, once public, will be repeatedly exploited until patched. If not by the Rabids, by others, and then you end up with an assortment of competing slates and a Red Queen's Race that destroys any value the award might ever have. That's just reality.

Goddamn I hope e pluribus hugo passes second reading.

Re: we need e pluribus hugo

[identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com 2016-04-28 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. While we did pretty well for half a century without this nonsense, it's clear Vox Day isn't going to get a new hobby while the old one is getting him attention. If you're attending Mid-Americon and the business meeting, please vote for EPH and/or 4/6 as your judgment leads you. Either one will be an effective slate killer and they are not mutually exclusive so it's okay to support both.

Re: we need e pluribus hugo

[identity profile] nojay.livejournal.com 2016-04-28 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
This year's voting in Kansas City will show if there's an enthusiasm gap with respect to the Puppies. Any of last year's Puppies i.e. someone who bought a supporting membership in the 2015 Spokane Worldcon to mess with the process was eligible to nominate this year. It's not cost them anything else other than some of their time to manipulate the 2016 nominations list. If they want to vote they'll have to put their hands in their pockets and pull out another 40-odd bucks and give it to the WSFS. They have a worked example of what happened last year, with Noah Ward sweeping the categories they most wished to influence and despite the spin nobody loves a loser, not when they're personally dropping the price of a AAA-rated game on the experience.

Re: we need e pluribus hugo

[identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com 2016-04-30 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
This. A lot of people are certain the sky is falling - but it's too early to tell. We'll know much more this time next year.

[identity profile] joenotcharles.livejournal.com 2016-04-30 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)

There's also a possible enthusiasm gap with anti-Puppy nominees. I bought a supporting membership just to vote against them, and I'm not going to bother this year because I feel we've made our point.