The 2016 Hugo Finalists

[james_davis_nicoll]

Once again, I am a mere background figure, not even a red shirt. But there are some interesting works up for Hugo, as well as puppy crap destined to place below no award.

Comments

[matgb]

Next year, in Finland ;-)

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

Is the Moira Greyland essay a Puppy nomination, do you know?

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

She could be. Her political views are in line with the puppies, although not as moderate. And she plays to a narrative VD is trying to sell about his rivals.

[james-nicoll.livejournal.com]

That said, what happened to her is horrible and indefensible and a story that should be better known than it is.

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

Yeah. She was horrifically abused, by people with a horrific political and social agenda. That should have not happened, and people aware of it should have spoken out.

[juliansinger.livejournal.com]

Yes. Which is not to say other people didn't also nominate it. But yes, it was on the RP slate.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Yes. And the version of it they got on the ballot comes from a violently misogynist website, for bonus points.

[agharta75.livejournal.com]

Yes. It's on Day's list.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

She's "not as moderate" as open, enthusiastic, swastika-sporting Slaver's Flag-waving Klan-hooded neo-Nazis?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I mean, yikes.

[rachel-swirsky.livejournal.com]

Yeah, didn't Deirde break the story? Seems like she should be getting the reward for it, though I think she was eligible last year and not this year.

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

I assume they're nominating Moira's essay, the writing itself, and not the news story.

[fridgepunk.livejournal.com]

It's sort of a double fuck you - it's not the original report on abuse by Marion Zimmer Bradley but a second hand report of the original report on a hyper abusive misogynist's website.

[rachel-swirsky.livejournal.com]

Oh! Sorry. I hadn't understood what was going on.

[vschanoes.livejournal.com]

According to Greyland, she never gave permission for Deirdre to reprint her emails and poems, which puts that piece in a different light for me. Which is not to say that Greyland's politics--and her logical distortions--aren't horrific.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

Wow, 3 things I nominated made it on the ballot (Uprooted, Ex Machina, & Jessica Jones) - I'm pleased.

I know nothing about the Butcher, but the other novel entries look like the typical (from my PoV) Hugo mix of a novel (or in this case 2, with Uprooted and Ancillary Mercy) I liked, at least one piece of trash (Seveneves, bad even for Stephenson), and something I won't read because of excessive grimness, and looking further down, I see a few indications of puppy droppings, but thankfully not very many.

Edit: looking further, it seems they dominated best short story and best related work :(

[soon_lee]

File770.com is down but here's a capture of the analysis. "Vox Day’s Rabid Puppies slate placed 64 of its 81 recommendations on the final ballot."

Rabid Puppies also included works that might have been expected to have made the final ballot without slating (e.g. Sandman:Overture) as an attempt to cause head explosions amongst the "Noah Ward all slate candidates" voters.

Given that last year the votership saw fit to award a Hugo to "Guardians of the Galaxy" despite it being on the Rabid Puppies slate, I credit the WSFS membership with sufficient judgement to respond to Vox Day's machinations appropriately.

[roseembolism.livejournal.com]

So is File770 down just from the number of viewers? Or is it a DDOS attack?

[mme-hardy.livejournal.com]

Oh, no.

[soon_lee]

According to Mike Glyer on Facebook, it's not a DDOS attack: "My ISP tells me it isn't a denial of service. And told me something to try, so I am trying to learn enough to navigate their site and do it."

[sean o'hara (from livejournal.com)]

The Hugo website credits the piece to Greyland. Is the piece being misrepresented?

[sean o'hara (from livejournal.com)]

My favorite bit of Pup spinnery so far:

A casual look reveals items in several categories that I would vote for, whereas in previous years it was a snobfes. Uprooted, Seveneves and Jim Butcher in Best Novel?

Note that this is Novik's second nomination, and Stephenson's fourth, and the Novik novel wasn't even on the slate.

[elusis.livejournal.com]

There are two pieces, the "safe space" one [vomit] and one by Greyland.

[seth ellis (from livejournal.com)]

Really? The first line of Moen's post says that she did. I don't know enough about the situation to have an opinion. A horrific situation either way.

[jsburbidge.livejournal.com]

Uprooted would seem to have been on the Sad list.