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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2013-07-02 11:51 am

Ecclesiastes 1:9

Tough problems demand tough-minded solutions! LIFE BOAT RULES! LIFE BOAT RULES!

Inexplicably not titled "I have a totally original idea nobody has ever had before and that I will not research to see if there are known pit-falls! Let's pay undesirables to get vasectomies!"

My favourite line?

While I have not crunched the numbers to support this hypothesis,

[identity profile] lydy.livejournal.com 2013-07-02 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I sympathize. I do find the argument that every baby should be a wanted baby to be persuasive, though, even in the hands of creepers. Which was really what I was focusing on. (And if you remove the monetary incentive, it stops being targeted at poor people. It just becomes one more choice available to people trying to navigate the complexity of their lives.)

[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2013-07-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, any program that offers financial help with contraception could be described as targeted at poor people. And with a program that relies on donations (directly, or indirectly through taxes), there's always the question of whether this use of the money will better serve the good of society than use of the money in some whole nother area.

[identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com 2013-07-03 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
The economic benefit of birth control is pretty darned clear.

[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2013-07-03 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Of course I agree with you. But any aid with, or education for, contraception is probably given to help "the good of society", thus falling under James' interdiction as "creepy". Particularly when it's not just 'those people' but 'all people'.