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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2013-03-12 02:09 pm

HAIL HYDRA! DONATION TO COMPANY ORGAN BANKS NOW OPTIONAL, NOT MANDATORY!


Reacting to criticism from the Science Fiction Writers Association and other groups about the terms for its new digital imprints, Random House has made changes to its contracts. The most significant change is that prospective authors for the Hydra, Alibi, LoveSwept and Flirt imprints will now be able to choose from two models--the original profit share deal or a more traditional advance plus royalty deal.


At the cost of sounding like a churl, when they say


Hydra, Alibi, Loveswept, and Flirt seek to acquire rights throughout the world and in all languages. This expands the author’s opportunities and earnings potential.


Actually, this*may* expand the author’s opportunities and earnings potential or it may not; the author already has the option of selling rights around the world and I could see how having one entity handle them could work out for or against the author. What it does is expand Hydra, Alibi, Loveswept, and Flirt’s opportunities and earnings potential.

[identity profile] montedavis.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yowza! If I assign them my rights and those of my heirs and assigns in perpetuity, to everything I may ever write, throughout the space-time manifold...

Phase 3: Profit!!!
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[personal profile] seawasp 2013-03-12 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hail Hydra!

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Two things alarm me about the rights model.

(a) While it may seem better for writers to put all their rights eggs in one basket to avoid "the hassle" of negotiating those rights with another party, I suspect that logic would refute that. If that negotiation has worth and a potential return on investment, then surely the more times the owner of the IP has the chance to negotiate for rights to the same IP, the more chance that owner has to be profitable. You could say that "oh, but you might not be able to sell those rights, so really money in hand", but the point is that I may not be able to sell them now but I can keep trying as long as they're mind to sell, and the world is a big place, and chances are good that someone will want them if they're worth something.

(b) The "for the length of copyright" to me is insane and not a deal that any IP owner should ever sell. This basically puts ownership of the right to make money of IP for the length of time that anyone involved can make money off the IP. Your IP might be worth comparatively little now, but who knows what will happen in a decade or two. Sure, your urban fantasy that deals with pixie sex might only be marginally valuable as a book property now, but what happens when someone convinces Hollywood1 that pixie-sex is the best way to suck in the teen demo ten years from now? Then suddenly, you're in the rising tide floats all boats situation, and you don't own your rights.

I would have thought that the maximum value for writers is, in fact, to constrain each rights license to as short a term as possible, for as narrow a medium as possible, for as much money as can be gained under the circumstance as possible. This lets you re-negotiate with the same IP as frequently as you can. Which has probably got to be good for the creator of the IP, all things being equal.

But I'm not a creator, or a publisher, or a business person, really. So I could easily be incorrect.


1 And really, it's not so much Hollywood that's the big thing to consider here, is it? I mean, who knew what kind of cash would be involved in the gaming industry today, a decade or so in the past? I suspect that what you're looking to do is have the opportunity to control your rights over media that's still growing or about to come online, and Hollywood might not be that arena... (gaming, or some other new type of creative media that can be package and sold, might).
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[identity profile] ethelmay.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, could we get sexy pics of pixie sex, with Pixie Sticks and sticky pecs?

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, no doubt, no doubt. Featuring ultra-thin and pouty young models, no doubt. With tastefully arrayed gossamer wings. I'm sure the cover art has already been commissioned in anticipation of the movement taking hold.

[identity profile] bedii.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
There should be some sort of ominous sound when Rule 34 is invoked so blatantly. Pratchett's "jinglejinglejingle" just doesn't do it...
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[identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Actually there's a... not sure if "classic" or "infamous" is a better adjective.

Bondage Fairies, a hentai manga about pixy police women and a cadre of evil bondage pixies who've been kidnapping local wildlife and other pixies.

It's weird and revolting.

[identity profile] bedii.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that one's old news: a friend used to be one of the top translators of manga in North America, and she always used it as an example of how desperate she'd never be...

[identity profile] keithmm.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a good example with James Bond. I'm pretty sure that when Fleming was writing the original stories, okay, movies, maybe, but I doubt at the time he was thinking animated TV series, comic strips, and video games.

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention the roleplaying game.

[identity profile] nathan helfinstine (from livejournal.com) 2013-03-13 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Or the personality implant!

(From When Gravity Fails by George Alec Effinger.)

[identity profile] bedii.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Only second to the Nero Wolfe model. The only time anyone but Stout has put that character on paper for longer than a paragraph and kept him living and breathing.
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[personal profile] soon_lee 2013-03-13 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
From what I've read, a good agent can earn a writer significantly more from "other market rights" (those piecemeal foreign rights add up to non-trivial sums of money), so avoiding "the hassle" is more like forgoing potential additional income from your work.

[identity profile] seth ellis (from livejournal.com) 2013-03-12 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sticking with my Overton Window comment from last time. I'm willing to bet that they're pulling back in the hopes that people will go, "Oh, that's better," and be encouraged to take the cartoonishly awful profit-share version seriously.

Between this and Amanda Palmer's recent TED talk (http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/storefront/2013/03/an-open-letter-to-amanda-palmer-a-fellow-musicians-response-to-the-ted-video/), I'm getting weary of the continuing message to entry-level creative professionals to expect nothing for their efforts, to count themselves lucky, to live on hope and handouts. Palmer's nothing if not sincere, but the end result is so transparently the production of a creative class that's ripe for exploitation.

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-12 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks very much for the link. It should get stuck in the link-dex right next to one of John Scalzi's carefully worded screeds about why he refuses to write "for free".

[identity profile] seth ellis (from livejournal.com) 2013-03-12 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, she expresses the issue very well, and with more patience toward Palmer than I could have mustered.

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto.
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[identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
There seems to be something in the air at the moment, as Ta-nehisi Coates recently went Full Artiste and declared that getting paid to write is an optional thing (http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/03/lucrative-work-for-free-opportunity/273846/).

[identity profile] viktor-haag.livejournal.com 2013-03-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
He should feel right at home, then, working for a commercial organ that apparently is asking people to write for free. Actually, that's probably too snarky. But still.

One wonders if professional writers are (or should be) worried that they'll be increasingly supplanted by people who are willing (or can afford and choose) not to get paid.

One wonders if the publishers will offer deals that feature no advance, but royalties, and only a very limited license to publish with dramatic secure-back (i.e. you have exclusive north american book publishing rights for two years, and from that point if the property isn't in print, in hardcopy and e-book, available through all major online retailers, the rights revert back to author).

One wonders if more and more genre publishers will self-publish, or publish in commune groups.

It's a brave new world a comin'!
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[identity profile] nathan helfinstine (from livejournal.com) 2013-03-13 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
He should feel right at home, then, working for a commercial organ that apparently is asking people to write for free.

I believe he wrote that piece specifically in response to complaints that his employer was asking people to write for free. The employer that presumably pays him to be an employee. I'm reminded of the old saying, "Where you stand depends on where you sit."
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[identity profile] sean o'hara (from livejournal.com) 2013-03-13 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect publishers will eventually become what vanity presses claim to be, where an author pays them to edit and market a book and get it in whatever physical bookshops still remain.