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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2008-12-18 12:00 pm

I have wondered this for a while

What's the point of the subtitle "a novel"?
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[personal profile] dsrtao 2008-12-18 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It allows literary theorists to skip the tedious "but what kind of work is this, really?" analysis which would otherwise be good for an undergraduate paper.

[identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
It sounds funny because it states the obvious.

Alternatively, it sounds melodramatic because it states the obvious.

[identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
We are talking about stuff like "Thirteen Moons: A Novel", "The Host: A Novel", and "2666: A Novel", right?

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[identity profile] synabetic.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's to help people from confusing the book with a box of candies.











What. It could happen!

[identity profile] aisb23.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see the usefulness in cases like Gore Vidal's "Burr: A Novel" as perhaps either the author or publisher did not want someone not familiar with Vidal's work to think it a serious biography of Aaron Burr rather than a piece of historical fiction.

Other than that, it seems to be utterly pointless.

[identity profile] mayakda.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so pretentious, isn't it?

[identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's in some ways a relic from distinguishing "a novel" from "a romance".

[identity profile] tekalynn.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's eighteenth century, it's a Novel because it is by a Lady.

Or a drunken Oxford undergrad, take your pick.

[identity profile] jeriendhal.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Keeps people from mistaking it for a 300 page short story.

[identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Keep people mistaking it for a pile of beets and inadvertantly eating it.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You have no idea how often this has happened to me.

You have no idea how often it's been a better use for the novel than reading it, too.

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[identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It keeps people from wondering why this comic book has so many pages, and no pictures.

[identity profile] marydell.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
hee!

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It helps, now that Amazon.com sells things like farm equipment and home security devices.

[identity profile] almeda.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
They have several card games listed as 'books,' too. Mass market paperback, no less.

Bone Wars is the first I noticed it with, but everything from that publisher is 'A Book' according to the amazon database, and it's probably done the same thing to other games too.

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[identity profile] arkessian.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, somebody might think it was true, otherwise...

[identity profile] will-couvillier.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Couldn't say. I, personally, would think that a person could easily tell if a work is "a novel" rather than "a collection", "a chapbook of modern verse", "a pop-up book", or any other such simply by thumbing through it...

[identity profile] jeffr23.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Title I have chosen for this book is too short, and needs some ballast to weigh it down lest it float off into the Aether."

[identity profile] sesquipedeviant.livejournal.com 2008-12-19 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! I couldn't have said it as well, but adding "A Novel" is a neat way of inserting a caesura.

[identity profile] n6tqs.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It keeps it from being shelved/filed in the nonfiction sections?
As you know, Bob....

[identity profile] debgeisler.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Redundancy comes to mind. Again and again.

Y'all are very persnickety: a comment

[identity profile] ross-teneyck.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, sure, "...A Novel" is mostly an unnecessary thing to tack onto the title of a novel. But if the author or the publisher happen to think that it rounds out the name of the book in a euphonious fashion, why kick? When you get right down to it, the novel itself probably isn't all that necessary to the grand scheme of things.

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Euphonia: a novel?

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[identity profile] j-larson.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
So it won't accidentally be put on the non-fiction shelves?

Surely there's some fun to be had with that convention. "The Holy Bible: A Novel", "Lose 10 Pounds in One Month: A Novel", "Introduction to C++: A Novel", ...

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Misfiled under: a novel?

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[identity profile] montoya.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
It lets Damon Knight make a pun.

[identity profile] nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a market signal -- it tells people that the book is upmarket or elevated.

You can see this by the defensiveness in the other comments to this post.

[identity profile] thomasyan.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Like James, I have also wondered. One hypothesis was maybe it marked standalone novels from a series, but I think that didn't hold up.

It's a market signal -- it tells people that the book is upmarket or elevated.

You know, I think it actually works like that on me. For some reason, I kind of like it, and you might have identified the reason.

I guess it would be interesting to get a nice big list of examples. I could see something like Byatt's Possession being marketed this way. I'm not so sure about Butler's The Fledgling, but I guess it could be at work there, too.

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[identity profile] tiger-spot.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Presumably to keep it from being mistaken for biography, history, or memoir (or other less-likely sorts of nonfiction).

Although I like that "Chosen title is too short; needs ballast" idea too.
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[identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot offer a definitive answer to your question, but you never have the "a novel" subtitle on eldritch tomes, or those books that have a hollow interior for keeping guns or booze inside them.

[identity profile] oneironaut.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Aha! I am totally writing that in Sharpie on my hollow book. Now no one will think to check there.

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[identity profile] shsilver.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, last week I was reading a novel called Eleanor vs. Ike, about a Presidential race between Eleanor Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower in 1952 and had someone comment that it was good to see people reading non-fiction.
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[identity profile] agent-mimi.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so those Yip Yip guys on Sesame Street know how to distinguish it from a radio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qxWGr8VhzQ

[identity profile] bibliotrope.livejournal.com 2008-12-18 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Believe it or not, some people have trouble with the distinction between "fiction" and "non-fiction". "I don't want 'non-fiction.' I want something real. Because 'non' means 'no'. So 'fiction' is the true stuff, and 'non-fiction' is made up, right?" Librarians run into this way of thinking a lot when trying to explain things like call numbers to patrons.

"Novel" clarifies it a bit. Most of them know a "novel" is a made-up story and not true. It is a little jarring in a lot science fiction though, especially far-future stuff with space travel and such.

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