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[personal profile] mindstalk 2020-08-06 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
What's it from? Or what does it show?
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[personal profile] jamoche 2020-08-07 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
San Francisco Bay Area after the ocean rises.

[personal profile] theresawright 2020-08-06 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If the region did flood over all those towns and cities, how long would it take for the waters to be clean? I'm thinking of abandoned gas stations, industrial sites, rotting old buildings, asphalt surfaces...
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[personal profile] brooksmoses 2020-08-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
...and all of the Superfund sites around here from when "Silicon Valley" meant there was a startup chipmaker on every block, with all the delightful chemicals (and budget for proper disposal of same) that that implies. About 2% of the Superfund sites in the U.S. are under the water on that map.
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[personal profile] voidampersand 2020-08-07 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Silicon Valley has lots of Superfund sites but it's not all about the silicon, and the nastiest stuff is older.

The Superfund site in my neighborhood is the former ag supply business. Thy sold pesticides to the local farmers, and were not careful about cleanup. There is a thick layer of clay over the old ground and houses on top now. Disturb it at your peril.

On the other side of town where a semiconductor plant used to be, they have a little fenced off well and a pump spraying water in the air. The contaminants evaporate out and blow away. Eventually the groundwater will be clean again.
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[personal profile] cynthia1960 2020-08-07 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly enough, there is now housing where I used to work in Sunnyvale. It was part of a Superfund site, and the remediation started way back even before I started at AMD in '82. I was a safety coordinator for my department, and heard about the remediation as part of the task.

[personal profile] gatunian 2020-08-07 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget all that radium on Treasure Island!
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[personal profile] roseembolism 2020-08-07 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Assuming industrial civilization is gone, the area along the Sacramento river would probably still have enough currents to sweep stuff down to the ocean. The broad flat inland oceans would probably within a few decades have enough of a layer of silly built up that the water would mostly be OK...unless something dredged up the bottom...
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[personal profile] rezendi 2020-08-07 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Second fun fact: debris from the mining explosives of the 1849ers up in the Sierra foothills is just now making its way through the San Francisco Bay, courtesy of the slow but inexorable river currents. (source: I attended a "DredgeFest" expedition a couple years ago.)
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[personal profile] ritaxis 2020-08-07 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
My house is gone in the picture.

[personal profile] ba_munronoe 2020-08-07 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
So you're saying you can't see your house from here?
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[personal profile] cynthia1960 2020-08-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
My guess is that my place in downtown SJ is gone.
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[personal profile] graydon 2020-08-07 01:49 am (UTC)(link)

tech level? Are we talking, alternate earth where there was never major construction there, and everybody's just moved uphill a bit? Someone trying to scavenge copper from increasingly deep water? Alien archeologists? Slow resumption of trade in wooden sailing vessels?

[personal profile] ba_munronoe 2020-08-07 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Parts of the Central Valley near the bay are _already_ below sea level: I wonder how big an earthquake it would take to open up a channel?
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[personal profile] arethinn 2020-08-07 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's possible with the transverse faults we have here because the Pacific plate is moving northward relative to the North American plate, carrying some extreme coastal bits of land with it. Point Reyes will be in Alaska someday, though.
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[personal profile] ariaflame 2020-08-07 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Have you heard of Callisto 6?
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[personal profile] kedamono 2020-08-07 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Then there is Isla de California, where California is an island. And depending on the sources, it's either an island up to San Francisco, or according to the Spanish explorer Juan de Fuca, an island all the way up to Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Now imagine what sort of adventures you'd have there...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_California
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[personal profile] arethinn 2020-08-07 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
We are nnnooootttt quite underwater? I think? It's hard to see at 427x469.
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[personal profile] voidampersand 2020-08-07 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
See also the Inland Sea map at Kesh Maps.
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[personal profile] rezendi 2020-08-07 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Fun fact: much of the Sacramento Delta is already dozens of feet below sea level.
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[personal profile] beamjockey 2020-08-07 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Is there an obvious place to build a dam of not-unreasonable dimensions?

2. Does there exist an RPG about dam-building?
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[personal profile] rezendi 2020-08-07 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately dams in areas prone to massive earthquakes are problematic.
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[personal profile] beamjockey 2020-08-07 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
As you can already tell, I know dam-all about this subject.

[personal profile] theresawright 2020-08-07 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
As is built land, but that doesn't stop people from trying. I could see people trying a combination of dams and raised earthworks to save valuable communities or farmland from rising waters. How well it would work depends on your faith in the US Army Corps of Engineers, but catastrophic failure could make for an interesting disaster novel.
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[personal profile] chrysostom 2020-08-08 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Salton Sea but much bigger.

(Anonymous) 2020-08-08 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Buried somewhere in my book collection is a novel called The Wave, in which a landslip into a Canadian dam's reservoir raises a 600ft wave that destroys the dam and heads downstream. Oh, and of course there's a nuclear power plant in its path, just in case the wave wasn't going to do enough damage on its own.

Paul Clarke

[personal profile] felila 2020-08-08 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Unless they are natural dams! Built by beavers. Small dams all the way down the streams flowing into the big rivers. Trap silt, fill up, beavers move, build dam ...

[personal profile] anzha 2020-08-07 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You should try the Amazon Basin with heightened sea levels.

http://flood.firetree.net/

Set to 60m.
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[personal profile] elf 2020-08-10 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Looks like I can stay put; even at +7m, my home's not underwater (well, not the upper story), and at 9m, I'll just have to set up camp a parking lot in the next block.

...living on a 50x100m asphalt island is sustainable, right?

[personal profile] ba_munronoe 2020-08-12 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Here in Albuquerque at 4900 feet elevation, I snigger at you lowlanders.

(Admittedly, one of those 30 year droughts could be troublesome).