Follow-up to the earlier question

[james_davis_nicoll]

Which mainstream science fiction or fantasy work would you say was the most racist mainstream science fiction or fantasy work?

(Mainstream = published by a legit publisher, not some vanity house)

Comments

[jessie_c]

Farnham's Freehold has got to be right up there. Possibly alongside Fifth Column. Closely followed by pretty much anything Campbell edited, encouraged or published.

[(Anonymous)]

Was "Save the Pearls" published by a mainstream press?

[ba_munronoe]

What's the earliest we can go? Some early proto-SF was pretty genocidal (Jack London's "The Unparalleled Invasion" was hardly unique)

[ba_munronoe]

Krapman's "Caliphate", published by Baen, is pretty solid Islamophobia.

[rpresser]

HPL FTW

[jesuswasbatman]

Possibly Lovecraft's "The Street", although it has only very slight fantasy content.

[(Anonymous)]

"Good Indian" by Mack Reynolds?

[graydon]

Spider Robinson's Night of Power stands out, but if we count something like Isabel Briggs Myers' Give Me Death we're faced with the whole "Is this science fiction?" problem. There's a lot out there.

Then there's Philip Francis Nowlan's novella Armageddon 2419 A.D., the original Flash Gordon story, and well. Chinese people as literal eusocial aliens against whom a war of extermination must be fought to victory in a context of inherent white American supremacy.

[jreynolds197]

I see your Tom Kratman and raise you John Ringo and Tom Kratman: Watch on the Rhine - the SS are the good guys! Liberals / Greens are quislings (who get killed off because of their stupidity)! The aliens are hordes of evil, stupid beings that can be killed with zero moral qualms! (Almost as if they are a stand-in for the yellow peril or Islam.)

And (it's been a LONG while since I read / skimmed it), the aliens that give high-tech stuff to humans seemed Jewish-coded to this non-jew: cosmopolitan and untrustworthy.

I would be happy to be wrong on that score.

[jreynolds197]

Regarding the previous post: Kameron Hurley just tweeted something apropos:

One thing that's really hard in this industry is that somebody can write one or two books and live on them forever, or write a great debut that launches their career so far into the stratosphere that they can use it to launch a solid career...and then...

The thread is here.

https://twitter.com/KameronHurley/status/1200576771072167936

[dragoness_e]

Any Fu-Manchu novel by Sax Rohmer. Actually, any story, short or long, by Sax Rohmer that has Asian or part-Asian characters anywhere near it. That guy had some serious anti-Asian bigotry going on, and most of his stuff was pulp horror or pulp thriller with an Orientalist theme and lots of faux-mysticism tossed in.

[ba_munronoe]

Then there's "The Camp of the Saints", described in an article on white supremacist literature ( https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/opinion/inside-the-world-of-racist-science-fiction.html )

"Sitting beside “The Turner Diaries” at the top of the white supremacist best-seller list is Jean Raspail’s 1973 novel, “The Camp of the Saints.” It is a brooding parable that warns of the dangers of immigration and is something of a standout for being relatively well written, even in translation from the original French. Mr. Raspail’s caustic, often-humorous, ellipses-littered prose is reminiscent of that of his fellow countryman Louis-Ferdinand Céline, whose own history as a Nazi sympathizer cast a shadow over his otherwise brilliant work.

The book’s central “problem” begins in Belgium, where priests are encouraging the adoption of Indian children as a form of charity. In an early scene, a roiling sea of desperate Indian mothers — “wretched creatures” — storms the gates of the Belgian embassy in Kolkata, each with a child in her outstretched arms. The country is soon swamped with these adoptions, and authorities announce an end to the policy.

But it’s too late; the mob gains strength as the Indians are joined by Arabs and other nonwhites. They eventually grow to one million strong, board a flotilla and set sail for France. The country’s liberal government hesitates to defend against the onslaught, and as it stammers and acquiesces, the immigrants begin to enter the country. France’s whites retreat northward, but are eventually absorbed by the demographic shift, and the trend spreads throughout Europe, as indigenous populations and other “hoards” are inspired to rise up. They eventually take over the world, erasing the white race from existence."

[typographer]

Lucifer's Hammer is the one that always leaps to my mind. But then I read it before I ever found an old used paperback of Farnhams Freehold... and I'd been warned about the racism in the latter, so that might be why Lucifer's Hammer seemed worse?

Do the original Fu Manchu novels qualify as fantasy?