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[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2014-08-28 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I figure the time I lose on monster books I can make up for with a flurry of short older books.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2014-08-28 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That said, I allocate 40% of my review for long books to moaning about how the books could have been shorter. NOBODY CARES ABOUT TOM BOMBADIL!

[identity profile] w. dow rieder (from livejournal.com) 2014-08-28 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Dang, Poe's law just got me there--I was halfway through typing an angry retort, when I read what you said more carefully. Kneejerk reactions can be very revealing.

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2014-08-28 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of something that I once saw in a discussion that may have been a tangent on the conlang email list. Someone made the claim that Tom Bombadil was "obviously" a representation of a--religious? mythological? figure and that anyone paying attention to the text could figure this out. I am not a lit major and I begged this person to just spoil it for me because I remembered Tom Bombadil (vaguely) but had no earthly idea who he "really" might be. The person refused to do so on the grounds that it was obvious and I would receive more pleasure in figuring it out for myself. Over fifteen years later and I still have no idea, or maybe the person was just pulling my leg, and I'm still curious. Anyone?

[identity profile] graydon saunders (from livejournal.com) 2014-08-29 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
There's more than one value of obvious involved; people get different answers. Some of the popular ones are that this is Aule and Yavanna, or unspecified Maiar, or, well, there are theories.

My favourite is to recognize that there was a point in time where Tolkien wrote "all I have to do is get them to Rivendell" and for that scope of Hobbit-sequel, the visit with Tom and Goldberry and the Barrow-downs would be a different structural part of the book, and certainly a reminder of the great age of the landscape the hobbits are moving over.

[identity profile] cshalizi.livejournal.com 2014-08-29 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Let me have the pleasure of introducing you to Oldest and Fatherless (http://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html).

[identity profile] yhlee.livejournal.com 2014-08-29 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
That is wicked cool, thank you!

[identity profile] kla10.livejournal.com 2014-08-29 02:37 am (UTC)(link)

When Jackson's done stretching The Hobbit out like butter over too much bread, he'll do a Bombadil movie or two while he's ramping up for the Slimarillion.

[identity profile] chrysostom476.livejournal.com 2014-08-29 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Bombadil is 1.5 chapters out of a book that is 22 chapters long. It's really not that much of a burden.

[identity profile] roseembolism.livejournal.com 2014-08-29 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
A brick wall need only be 1.5 meters high, but if one's car hits it at 60km/hr it still does bad things.