[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2014-05-03 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
How about a tag, "Attn Foreskin Collectors"?

Oh, woops. Default circumcision is happening right now in our own local hospitals, where we could actually do something about it. So, never mind.

[identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com 2014-05-03 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Vasectomies don't remove foreskins, and tubal ligations certainly don't.

The US has a shameful record on involuntary/coerced sterilization, so far be it from me to throw rocks, but the scope of this is absolutely startling, given that Peru's population is about 30 million.

[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
In the hospitals where we might have influence, by the time people are of the age of consent to sterilizations, there are very few foreskins left, most of them having been arbitrarily removed without even the parents' consent.

[identity profile] icecreamempress.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know any parents who have had that experience, and I know a lot of parents. But it is certainly not appropriate for any hospital to perform any elective surgical procedure on an infant without that infant's parent(s)' or guardian(s)' permission,

Nobody is going to argue otherwise here, I predict.

[identity profile] sesmo.livejournal.com 2014-05-03 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously comparing infant circumcision with forced sterilization of indigenous people?

Edited 2014-05-03 23:37 (UTC)

[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Reproductive system surgery performed on massive numbers of people without their (or their parents') consent. Do you condemn this only when the victims are indigenous?

As for power imbalance, that's featured in most such sterilization stories. In the US, the victims were POC, or poor, or classed with mental problems -- and the proponents were faceless respectable elites doing something then considered quite acceptable -- "for their own good".

Now the supporters of involuntary circumcision are the same kind of faceless elites -- and the victims are everyone not rich or powerful enough to get special treatment for their own baby.






[identity profile] sesmo.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry if you can't tell the difference between "lacks foreskin" and "can no longer have children" you are sufficiently far off the edge that I don't think we can have a conversation.

[identity profile] bemused-leftist.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Consent. Choice.

[identity profile] nelc.livejournal.com 2014-05-03 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What a bizarre connection. Were you sober when you wrote that?
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[identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com 2014-05-04 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
One has to get to "what about the mens?" somehow.