ext_297348 ([identity profile] doc-lemming.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] james_davis_nicoll 2013-12-13 08:24 pm (UTC)

Oh, they don't get a hero cookie, or even much respect and praise.

But they don't get scorn: they get a recognition that they've advanced.

It's like, oh, if a certain church that my relatives belong to were to say that women could in fact hold church office. (Not be ministers, but at least sit on the board.) Yes, they're still in a hole, but it's not quite as deep a hole and they would deserve acknowledgement that they've pulled themselves up to 1979. There's a distance to go, but at least they aren't quite as far from the treatment of human beings as human beings. It's progress. I might think it's totally awful and horrid that anybody needs to make that progress, but it is actually progress.

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