[identity profile] commodorified.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Where "should" = They already are and I find this sensible.

[identity profile] dd-b.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it works well to actually treat bicycles exactly like cars when they're mixed on roads. I haven't biked enough in the city, let alone in a variety of cities with better bicycle provisions than Minneapolis, to have a clear-cut idea of what works best, though.
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[personal profile] jazzfish 2011-04-09 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Anywhere else this would seem like exactly the sort of thing where one /shouldn't/ see the comments.
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[personal profile] chomiji 2011-04-09 04:44 am (UTC)(link)

Mind you, when they ride on the sidewalks around here, I wish they were considered vehicles and licensed/ticketed the same way as cars.

[identity profile] oh6.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
I would prefer (even) more nuanced legislation, but as vehicles makes more sense than as pedestrian, say.

[identity profile] agoodwinsmith.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
I just wish people who drive bicyles anywhere would realize that people using canes to assist locamotion are not going to walk in a straight line - or even consistenly predictably in any direction - and I can't hear them fuckers swishing up behind me on their soft little tires, either. Humph.

[identity profile] martinl-00.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Treating them the same as motor vehicles will have odd consequences sometimes. (Yearly emissions inspections?) Treat them as a special category.

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
What is the alternative to vehicles - cats?

[identity profile] maruad.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember a time in my life when bicycles were not considered vehicles in Manitoba.
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[personal profile] drcuriosity 2011-04-09 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
This set of rules seems to make sense:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pubs/cycling-guide/section5.0.shtml

It's also quite close to our rules for the same, as it happens.

Following the principle of "keep simple things simple, and manage complexity where it arises", treating a bicycle as a vehicle by default would seem to make sense. There are considerably fewer exceptions than there are common rules. Having a totally new set of laws to define something already mostly covered elsewhere seems pointless.

[identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
"Already are" and "Should be treated as cats."

[identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this a prelude to another anti-bicycle rant?

[identity profile] radargrrl.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Cyclists already have the same rights on Ontario highways as motorists. They also have the same responsibilities, which many of them forget.

[identity profile] scott-sanford.livejournal.com 2011-04-09 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Are there bicycles on Ontario highways? And if so, what does this mean for the speed of traffic that they can blend in?

Also, Cats.

[identity profile] wizwom.livejournal.com 2011-04-10 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Treat them as Vehicles, and you get idiotic things like people getting arrested for drunken bicycling and bicycling on an expired/revoked/suspended license.

[identity profile] lpetrazickis.livejournal.com 2011-04-11 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, with the caveat that it should be legal to treat a stop sign as a yield sign when on a bicycle.