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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2009-02-13 12:13 pm

Joss Whedon's Dollhouse Deathwatch: Day One

The Dollhouse series premiere airs tonight on Global at 9.00 et/pt.

[identity profile] montoya.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it possible that Joss Whedon will use this setup to explore female empowerment? Would that be in keeping with the guy who wrote Buffy, nearly wrote Wonder Woman, and made Kitty Pryde the hero of his X-Men run?
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[personal profile] thebitterguy 2009-02-13 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Shush. Joss Whedon is a horrid misogynist. I read it on the internet.

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean the guy who created an idiot plot just so Kitty could be "killed" tragically? Yeah, not really seeing the feminism in that.

I give Whedon props for generally creating more than one female character in his stories, thus allowing a range of characterizations -- he's a lot less crappy on that then he is on his skanky race issues. That doesn't mean he doesn't fuck up lots.

[identity profile] schizmatic.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I've probably brought this up in the past here on James's LJ, but on race, I will always give Joss mad props for acknowledging on Angel that, you know, there are non-whites in Southern California.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
It's better than Sunnydale, which doesn't seem to have any non-whites except when the vamps bus some in, but Angel's big demonstration of LA's human [1] diversity was what, the gang of Blackula killers in the first and second seasons? And their leader Gunn has to choose between being cannon-fodder for Angel or having contact with his buds?

1: Mind you, this could be another example of White People are Oblivious to Supernatural Threats. Maybe most of the blacks and hispanics who would have lived in LA took a look at the local demon population and decided that pretty much any town that didn't have an indigenous population of things that would eat them would be a better place to live.


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[identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)

The magical Los Angeles with no Hispanic people in it gets "mad props?" Really?

(Anonymous) 2009-02-15 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
If one wants something that reflects the current Southern California, one is going to have to watch Telemundo or Univision.
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[identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
While I do love Joss Whedon, I feel the need to point out that no matter who the author, your average feminist will probably feel more optimistic about the premises "superpowered girl fights monsters", "Amazon is a superhero", or "mutant girl joins team of superheroes", than the premise "brainwashed girl in mysterious brothel."

[identity profile] montoya.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, but as I understand it, the actual premise is "hyper-competent woman is being used by an evil organization and secretly organizing resistance" or something?

I dunno, I haven't read too much in the way of spoilers.
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[identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it will be nice if you turn out to be right. But then Fox needs to fire whoever's been doing their buzz generation.
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[personal profile] cofax7 2009-02-13 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, Fox always misrepresents the show in the marketing. Apparently SCC is about John the hero and Cameron the hottie...

[identity profile] montoya.livejournal.com 2009-02-13 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, they should have done THAT forever ago.