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james_davis_nicoll ([personal profile] james_davis_nicoll) wrote2020-11-24 09:18 pm

Enjoy!

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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2020-11-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.
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[personal profile] conuly 2020-11-25 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't the far right super obsessed with privacy?
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[personal profile] dewline 2020-11-25 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Tired and not laughing.
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[personal profile] brooksmoses 2020-11-25 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
And [twitter.com profile] ContentedIndie has posted a "maybe my sources were wrong" sort of tweet:
This will be my semi-final tweet in this thread, as this has gotten way too big for me to deal with:

1. Parler was breached in July
2. There are reports of it being hacked again tonight
3. In contradiction of my previous tweet, the site was not based off WordPress it seems
https://twitter.com/ContentedIndie/status/1331385524314124288

Final final tweet:

There is a lot of conflicting information going around about the hacks and the timeframes of the hacks so I'm not going to be speaking anymore about this in case there was no recent hack

The SSN thing though is fucking egregious
https://twitter.com/ContentedIndie/status/1331392654899339266
Edited 2020-11-25 04:50 (UTC)
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[personal profile] brooksmoses 2020-11-25 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
...No?

My impression of typical far-right ideology is that the only reason its proponents care about privacy is insofar as it supports their actual value of not having anyone, and particularly not the government, interfere with their ability to do whatever they want.

There's also the atypical subgroup that fancies themselves to be an underground resistance organization and care about privacy for that reason, but they seem to be rather atypical and also seem to be the sort of people who use Bitcoin "because it's untraceable".

[personal profile] keith_morrison 2020-11-25 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Only as it pertains to government. It's similar to the way they are incandescently outraged at the idea a government bureaucrat could make a decision that might affect them, but replace "government bureaucrat" with "middle manager at Apex Super Colossal MegaCorp Inc", well, that's just free enterprise and the market at work.
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[personal profile] bibliofile 2020-11-25 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
This.
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[personal profile] beatrice_otter 2020-11-25 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
The far right regularly cheers on government surveillance such as the PATRIOT act and claims that anyone who doesn't like the NSA being able to get all your electronic data and metadata without a warrant is obviously a criminal or otherwise has something to hide.
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[personal profile] dormouse1953 2020-11-25 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
I take it that Parler is something you have to be in the US to join? (I have neither an SSN nor a driving licence.)
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[personal profile] ffutures 2020-11-25 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, that's just stupid. Going by the Wikipedia description, how the hell would anyone think that signing up to that was a good idea? Hey, we need you to prove that you're a real person so let's have scans of a crucial document that makes ID theft trivially easy...
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[personal profile] ariaflame 2020-11-25 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You can join without that stuff I believe (it apparently has quite a few people from Saudi Arabia) it just gives extra access/perks to those that did the SSN thing.
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[personal profile] thewayne 2020-11-25 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Every doctor I go to has a block for your SSN on their paperwork, and I always leave it blank.

Maroons.

There's no possible reason Parler would require SSN. What, they're going to run background checks on all their users? I kinda doubt that. If you're not my employer, or someone that I want to borrow money from, or the government, you don't get my SSN.
Edited 2020-11-25 18:11 (UTC)
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[personal profile] thewayne 2020-11-25 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Because it would be so hard to look up what is a valid three digit SSN prefix and throw some ten-sided dice to generate the rest of the numbers.

A friend of mine sort of had his SSN appropriated. Someone used it to get a job, and regularly made deposits to his social security retirement account. He didn't mind that too much.
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[personal profile] thewayne 2020-11-25 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, yes. The old "If you've got nothing to hide...." reasoning.

Sorry, blanket collection is useless. A study of the programs that Edward Snowden spilled the beans on showed that ONE prosecutable case came out of all that data swooped up, and IIRC it was a small money transfer case that had already been found and prosecuted long after it was sifted out of the NSA data.

[personal profile] lampwick 2020-11-25 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Undocumented workers frequently use fake SSNs. Which turns out to be yet another benefit immigrants bring to the US -- that money can't be paid to a fake account and just gets added to the Social Security fund.
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[personal profile] al_zorra 2020-11-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
well Parler is run / own / invested in

-- or or all of the above --

by the same shoggoths of Cambridge Analytica. Of course they're going to demand every bit of personal information from the fools that follow them as possible.

Perhaps these grift machines will collapse from their own weight of unbearable grift.
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[personal profile] bolindbergh 2020-11-26 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
The Unbearable Griftness of Being is a book that needs to exist.

(Anonymous) 2020-11-27 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't use the site, but my understanding is that SS# (and photo ID) are required for members that are sufficiently popular, like the equivalent of the "blue check" on Twitter. Those members receive financial remuneration from Parler based on how many people click on their posts, so the SS# and ID are required because Parler has to report the money they give those users to the IRS as income.

I am confident YouTube also has the SS#'s of the people that are getting a cut of the ad money from that site.

So basically Parler is a site designed for people that decided that the cesspool that is Twitter is insufficiently deep and/or shit-filled, but this particular outrage is not properly worthy of outrage.

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Nathan H.