[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-08-18 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone in Ontario both remembers Bob Rae, and is not willing to be blinded by his tanking of the Federal Liberals into thinking that his party has changed.

We remember what the provincial NDP are and look like.

Fuck THAT.

[identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com 2011-08-18 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. The Ontario Demographic Factsheet is broken down in inconvenient ways for this:

The 0-14 year olds are about 16.5% but their total ignorance of the NDP back then is balanced by their inabiltiy to vote. The 15-24 year olds make up 13.6%; maybe too young to remember him even for the older ones and some of them can vote. The 25-44 yr olds make up 27.6%, can all vote and some will have been kids 16 years ago. Everyone else is old enough to remember them and can vote.

[identity profile] jeffreyab.livejournal.com 2011-08-18 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Too bad for the NDP the 18 to 44 year olds don't vote at the same percentages their elders do.

[identity profile] nevillepark.myopenid.com (from livejournal.com) 2011-08-18 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The terrifying legends of the Reign of Bob Rae and what happens when you let the NDP run the province have been passed down to the young in hushed whispers around campfires.

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2011-08-18 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not a bad analogy. The only bigger bogeyman is Harris, and Rae *caused* Harris.

It helps that Rae's currently a federal Liberal, and, the Liberals being the party with the longest knives, every time Rae steps forward everything he did as Premier and everything bad that came about because the NDP fucked up the job so badly makes the rounds again.

And I'm kind of okay with that. Ontario should have *finished* Rae, permanently, but he's like some kind of malignant cockroach.

[identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com 2011-08-18 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
My first experience with provincial-level NDP came from growing up in Saskatchewan. You may well understand how I might therefore disagree with your assessment of the Ontario arm's present state based on a previous leader's handling of the job in this province.