Date: 2019-03-21 03:42 pm (UTC)
dsrtao: dsr as a LEGO minifig (Default)
From: [personal profile] dsrtao
... the author bio is entertaining.

Date: 2019-03-21 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I already used 'bless his heart', didn't I? Well, bless his heart anyway.

Date: 2019-03-21 04:28 pm (UTC)
dmilewski: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dmilewski
If you skip over all the cons (make a profit), all the businesses that have emerged from fandom, all the stuff that they buy, all their collections and wealth, along with all the futures where capitalism is very healthy, and all the media that glorifies the military, and their present obsession with dysopias, then sure, I'll buy the argument.

Date: 2019-03-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
machiavellijr: Tragedy and comedy masks with crossed cutlasses (Default)
From: [personal profile] machiavellijr
"I had just read for the first time Henry Hazlitt’s Economics in One Lesson and became a libertarian."

and yet

"Science fiction is on the left because it’s designed to be on the left. There is a very real concept, a velleity – a wish unaccompanied by meaningful actions to obtain the thing desired for. The fat person that wants to lose weight but doesn’t do anything about it.

This is the left. They wish for a future they themselves do nothing to obtain. Marxism has offered them a shortcut. It’s the five-minute abs program that only the foolish are naive enough to adopt."

Someone here has certainly taken an intellectual shortcut. Not sure it's the entire field of SF.

Date: 2019-03-21 08:10 pm (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
With a heaping side of fatphobia! Lovely.

Date: 2019-03-28 03:11 pm (UTC)
beamjockey: Gorilla playing accordion (gorilla)
From: [personal profile] beamjockey
"Velleity" seems like a swell word.

I am not too old to learn new vocabulary, not even from a clueless libertarian doofus. I am open-minded.

Date: 2019-03-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
No, we're also a bunch of perverts out to destroy the nuclear family.

I am reminded of a sign I saw at a protest march, years ago: "Commie Fags for Peace."
Edited (I forgot a closing quotation mark.) Date: 2019-03-21 07:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-03-21 09:33 pm (UTC)
glaurung: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glaurung
Don't forget the effete, impudent, intellectual snobs for peace. Somewhere I have a "snob for peace" lapel pin, and one that says "hi, I'm an effete, impudent, intellectual snob". Both from before my time but I'll never get rid of them.

Date: 2019-03-21 05:04 pm (UTC)
ariaflame: Sombrero galaxy (Default)
From: [personal profile] ariaflame
The bit where they stated they associated the left with emotionalism and the right with rationalism kind of showed one of the areas where they made the first false assumptions.

Date: 2019-03-21 05:22 pm (UTC)
dwight_benjamin_thieme: My daughter Ellen in her debut as Rusty from Footloose (Default)
From: [personal profile] dwight_benjamin_thieme
Is the author quite sure that he didn't read American-style libertarianism after the Koch's took it over in the 80's in One Lesson instead?

Date: 2019-03-21 06:18 pm (UTC)
magedragonfire: (Default)
From: [personal profile] magedragonfire
Oh, yes. The 'rationalist' that just so slyly slides in the snarl of 'social justice warrior' is clearly of superior intellect and never lets himself be clouded by horrible, terrible emotions such as outrage, or disdain.

"Everyone I encountered confessed to jealousy of my being Canadian due to our free health care – despite it not being free, nor healthy, nor caring."

It is widely known that our healthcare is paid via taxation. (Taxes are, contrary to some very emotional fears, neither death nor tyranny.) And as for healthy or caring, I have only myself as a resource to quote at this moment, but I've lived with diabetes of the type 1 sort for thirty years in our system, and am neither dead (still got all my bits working, even!), nor been consigned to the poorhouse in the process.

(Which is more than I can say for some American friends of mine, who on the 'free' market are now paying more than $250 per vial of insulin and have to occasionally choose between food or medication necessary for life, which is something worth getting outraged about.)

Date: 2019-03-21 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I think the Libertoonian position is "if you will die if you don't buy it, it should cost you everything you have".

Date: 2019-03-22 06:28 pm (UTC)
magedragonfire: (Default)
From: [personal profile] magedragonfire
I suppose that explains their view on price gouging in interrupted supply situations.

Date: 2019-03-23 07:38 pm (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
Sometimes the invisible hand of the free market deals people a resounding left hook to the jaw. Lolbertarians always seem to assume it won't be them.

Date: 2019-03-24 11:09 am (UTC)
scott_sanford: (Default)
From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
As observed by others, they love The Market but do not understand that The Market does not love them back.

Date: 2019-03-24 04:32 pm (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
It occurs to me that perhaps the Lols believe they are a sort of economic version of The Chosen People???

Date: 2019-03-21 09:36 pm (UTC)
glaurung: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glaurung
From time to time I have heard of Canadians who are ideologically opposed to Canada's socialised health insurance. All of them have been young, healthy, and desperately unhappy to have been born in Canada instead of in the US.

Date: 2019-03-22 06:31 pm (UTC)
magedragonfire: (Default)
From: [personal profile] magedragonfire
There's also the old, wealthy, and slightly unhealthy who are often ideologically opposed to it. Can't get their bunions removed fast enough for 'em.

(Nevermind that waiting lists in the US to see specialists are often comparable to ours, of course.)

Date: 2019-03-23 07:39 am (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
About 14 or 15 years ago, a Canadian friend was complaining that they had to wait 3 months to see a specialist re: their allergies. "Rationing..." "socialized care..." "waiting lists... " "bah...."

At that very moment, my roommate in the US had been given an appointment with an allergist for testing... 4 months out.

Meanwhile another friend could not get tested for allergies that were plaguing her due to her work in food service, because she had no health care.

"Rationing."
Edited Date: 2019-03-23 07:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2019-03-24 03:12 pm (UTC)
timgueugen: (Default)
From: [personal profile] timgueugen
People who oppose public health care often go on about how they don't want bureaucrats controlling their health care. They ignore that privately run health care clients have their health care controlled by bureaucrats as well, just not ones working for the government.

Date: 2019-03-24 04:34 pm (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
Which is part of what baffles me. I suppose if you're the sort of person who has been very healthy, and never even had any accidental mishaps (aren't super-healthy people usually the sporty types who are more likely to have mishaps???), so you haven't interacted much with the insurance-based health care system, perhaps you've managed to just completely miss this somehow, but gnashing one's teeth over health care bureaucracy is as much a part of the experience as having to wear the backless gown that doesn't cover your butt.

Date: 2019-03-21 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bwross
Yes, as much as capitalism breaks down when there's a shortage of competition in the marketplace, it breaks down even more when the consumers don't even have a Hobson's choice to begin with.

Date: 2019-03-21 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keith_morrison
I attended the University of New Brunswick. I know we had a Philosophy department. There's a reason we weren't known for our Philosophy department.
Edited Date: 2019-03-21 06:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-03-21 06:42 pm (UTC)
dionysus1999: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dionysus1999
Hedge fund manager for Cayman Islands. Is that code for Canadian secret service?

I'm sure the people who maintained the shield generator on Starkiller Base thought Kylo Ren was just misunderstood. "He hasn't killed anyone today, Brittany!"

Date: 2019-03-21 08:03 pm (UTC)
kedamono: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kedamono
At least he didn't mention Ayn Rand...

Date: 2019-03-21 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bwross
He mentioned Hazlitt, which is almost as good. Hazlitt being a friend of Rand and a darling of the Austrian school of economics.

Date: 2019-03-21 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
When you can make "facts" up (e.g. "leftists don't read history") the resulting argument should have at least a superficial plausibility. He doesn't even manage that.

William Hyde

Date: 2019-03-21 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bwross
I believe the S in SF for him really stands for "Star Trek"... that's all that's mentioned (so it's the only thing shown he's familiar with), and if he's extrapolating that the rest of science fiction is like that... then, yes, science fiction would seem left wing.

Date: 2019-03-21 10:07 pm (UTC)
jessie_c: Me in my floppy hat (Default)
From: [personal profile] jessie_c
I see that he hasn't met the Puppies yet, let alone Teddy Beale.

Date: 2019-03-21 10:29 pm (UTC)
dragoness_e: Living Dead Girl (Living Dead Girl)
From: [personal profile] dragoness_e
The site seems to have problems loading...

ETA: It finally loaded, and I got to read the article. Oh. Joy.

In the words of Bugs Bunny: "Whatta maroon!"

Or at greater length: I wouldn't want anyone with that much bald-faced ignorance within a 1000 miles of my hedge funds, if I had any. He might try to manage them or something. Hell, I wouldn't let him near heavy machinery, he'd probably assume he knows all there is to know about how to operate them, ignore safety warnings, not read the manual, jump behind the wheel and kill someone and knock over a bridge.
Edited (status change) Date: 2019-03-21 10:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-03-21 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Good news (for investors) is that apparently this man of limited observational skills "works for a Cayman Island hedge fund service firm". So he doesn't do investing; he helps the people that actual do do investing, hide their profits in illegal tax shelters. That sounds a lot less difficult.

--
Nathan H.

Date: 2019-03-22 04:34 pm (UTC)
elusis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] elusis
Because it's liberals who want something (society) for free. Right.

Date: 2019-03-22 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ba_munronoe
SF, seen from a distance through ideological blinders so heavy they hardly let in any light. It's like a guy who's read one "serious" book and now considers themselves qualified to pontificate at length on "literature."

Date: 2019-03-28 03:08 pm (UTC)
beamjockey: Gorilla playing accordion (gorilla)
From: [personal profile] beamjockey
Speaking of one serious book, by the way, I would tend not to count a tome with "in One Lesson" in its title as a "serious" book.

(Though I would readily concede the possibility that it is relatively more serious than the rest of the essayist's reading diet. We don't have enough information to judge.)

Date: 2019-03-22 07:27 am (UTC)
zeborah: Zebra looking at its rainbow reflection (rainbow)
From: [personal profile] zeborah
James, why do you consistently hate us and why do I consistently let you?

"I emotionally hate price gouging but with sober second thought, rationally support it due to the laws of supply and demand."

Do... do you think he realises that the laws of supply and demand aren't legal laws?

...No, with sober second thought of course he doesn't: if they'd been created by government he'd be fully against them.

Date: 2019-03-22 12:36 pm (UTC)
coffeeandink: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coffeeandink
I had associated left-wing politics with emotionalism and right-wing politics with rationalism. For example, I emotionally hate price gouging but with sober second thought, rationally support it due to the laws of supply and demand.

...

Date: 2019-03-23 12:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] viktor_haag
I see we're back to gleefully throwing the memetic prophylactics into the wind! Excellent! Let me find my rain coat...
Edited Date: 2019-03-23 12:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2019-03-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
graydon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] graydon
Possibly also an umbrella and galoshes.

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