Date: 2019-02-18 04:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dagibbs
15th anniversary edition... scary! I remember this being new. But, the cover doesn't look right... weren't the characters on front/back of the cover, with about 1/2 printed with her on the front, and half with him on the front?

Date: 2019-02-18 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anzhalyumitethe
The original, they had two different covers using that art work: it came with her on the front and then him.

I have to admit as much as I like Friedman's work, her endings often seem...weak. This wasn't one of them though and, I think, it showed what author actually thought of Braxin culture. I think she showed what she thought of Azean at the start and ongoing.

This was a kaiju battle, writ large: everyone here is a monster.

Date: 2019-02-19 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ba_munronoe
Do any of them befriend a pudgy Japanese boy?

Date: 2019-02-19 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anzhalyumitethe
No. These monsters would have eaten the pudgy Japanese boy.

They were really, really monsters.

Date: 2019-02-18 05:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dagibbs
Yeah, that is more the original art.

Date: 2019-02-18 05:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] affreca
My edition is the one with Anzha on the front cover. Friedman's had good luck with Whelan covers. I think they used the two figure painting as two cover designs for her The Madness Season (alien vs. human in that case). Though, as a youth I was annoyed and thought Anzha's hair wasn't red enough on the cover.

I read this book to young to be rational about it. I have memories of reading it wedged between luggage in the back of the family Ford Fiesta, trying to block as much peripheral vision as possible to avoid car sickness. The high drama was cat nip to my younger self. I may have named my imaginary fire lizards Anzha and Zatar. The sequel does not exist in my timeline.

Date: 2019-02-18 08:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ambyr
I resonate strongly with this comment.

Date: 2019-02-18 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jessie_c
I struggled to get through this one. It took much longer than I usually spent on such a book because I kept putting the book down out of sheer meh. I can't recall how the ending went and really have no desire to read it again to find out.

Date: 2019-02-18 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)

1) The Azeans aren't great, but they have some sort of a representative government and some concept of human rights. The Braxana are really, really horrible; misogyny and rape are literally hardwired into the culture, and the ruling caste gets perks with names like "Whim Death".

2) This was a big sprawling mess of a first novel, but I admit that I liked it a lot, back when. Haven't dared to reread it in this century.

3) So there was a sequel! I wasn't aware. I'm getting the impression it wasn't well regarded?

Doug M.

Date: 2019-02-19 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] anzhalyumitethe
It was one of the books that convinced me authors shouldn't return to do sequels after a while.

Think Gripping Hand bad.

Date: 2019-02-19 11:13 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
On one hand, that's a darn shame. OTOH, that wasn't really a book that cried out for a sequel.

Doug M.

Date: 2019-02-18 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
A book I forced myself to finish. I really shouldn't have.

Books I have disliked have, from time to time, turned out to be books I really liked on a reread. Not this time, it seems.

William Hyde

Date: 2019-02-18 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carbonel
I slogged my way through this one because, um, I don't remember -- someone I respected recommended it? I think there may have been discussion about it on rec.arts.sf.fandom back when.

Then I tried Black Sun Rising, and got maybe a third of the way through. Haven't tried anything of hers since.

Ultimately, it was the Eight Deadly Words that did me in.

Date: 2019-02-19 05:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beamjockey
I remember it being distributed for free, perhaps to attendees at a Worldcon? Or maybe you could write and request a copy? But alas, I never actually read mine.

Date: 2019-02-19 05:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carbonel
That very well could be it. Plus the author's name, even if she is no relation.

Date: 2019-02-19 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keith_morrison
As it happened, I reread it only a few months ago.

Too much subplot and accessory characters, especially on the Braxana side, whose sole purpose seemed to be to point out what complete assholes the Braxana were. The one thing that it kinda-sorta got right was the way it portrayed the creepy fixation he had on her while she had nothing but disdain for him, an accurate stalker portrayal.

But otherwise, yes, monsters all the way down.
Edited Date: 2019-02-19 11:56 pm (UTC)


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