Date: 2017-09-25 03:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dionysus1999
That Vallejo cover should have been sent back for re-work. Unless that lion thing is filled with hydrogen, it will never get off the ground. It's kinda hippo shaped.

Date: 2017-09-25 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keith_morrison
No, the shading on the inner part of the arm makes it look thinner than it is. Whatever his other issues, Vallejo usually gets human anatomy right.

Date: 2017-09-26 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragoness_e
Yes, he's a professional artist and uses actual models. (I think his wife was his primary model for most if not all of the classic Boris paintings).

Date: 2017-09-26 12:14 pm (UTC)
dionysus1999: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dionysus1999
It's weird, he made her armband too small.

Date: 2017-09-25 04:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dsrtao
It's Magic!

Date: 2017-09-25 06:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jbwoodford
Its rear end bears some resemblance to that of a zeppelin, so you may be right.

Date: 2017-09-26 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] eub
What is going on with its butt? It looks like the world's largest whole pickle.

Date: 2017-09-26 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] viktor_haag
I think that part of the body that we are thinking is its butt is not, it's in fact the lion's thigh as it has the leg drawn up and flexed, so the lines going fore and back are its thigh muscles. That doesn't stop it from looking funny... compare with this picture of a lioness' thigh flexed:

Date: 2017-09-27 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] eub
OK, fair point. If I imagine seeing the top line of the animal's leg where it's got Bikini Armor Babe in front, it looks more reasonable.

Date: 2017-09-25 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My opinion of Janet Morris will be forever affected by an incident at the 1988 New Orleans worldcon. At the beginning of each panel a volunteer announced that smoking was not permitted in the the room. At this particular panel the volunteer making the announcement faced the audience, while Janet Morris sat behind her at the panelists' table smoking. And staring straight ahead clearly believing that the announcement only applied to the unimportant people in the audience and not to Janet Morris.

Date: 2017-09-25 07:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyphomandra
"Couch" does not sound to me like a particularly evocative fantasy word, it being the thing I sit on most evenings. I will choose to believe that the rest of the series continues with the soft furnishings theme (low settee of Whatsit, distant futon of fantasylandia etc)

Date: 2017-09-25 10:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] timgueugen
You'd think it would at least be a divan.

Date: 2017-09-26 12:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
Davenport and starboard.

Date: 2017-09-25 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This was quite possibly the SF book I hated most in the 1970s (not the worst, just most hated). I hadn't yet read my 2/3 of a Gor novel, so I was perhaps more surprised than most people. I've never read any of her work since.

"Kushiel's Dart" provoked a similar but weaker response of strong dislike. Better written, but still drenched in slime. Never read any of her further work, either. I don't question the sanity of those who did. Not in public, anyway.


William Hyde

Date: 2017-09-25 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ba_munronoe
Looking at her publication history, the one thing that really surprised me was the revival of the "(something) in Hell" series after a 22 year hiatus.

Date: 2017-09-26 05:19 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] movingfinger
I heard those described once as "Foobar in Hell" and I have never been able to think of them as anything else since.

Date: 2017-09-25 09:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rpresser
I guess "women like BDSM porn" explains some of Asaro's success?

Date: 2017-09-25 11:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] al_zorra
I started off thinking these books and the author were terrific -- until the moment I suddenly went, WTF! Granted I was quite young and inexperienced with everything when I thought they were great, but I was equally young and inexperienced at the moment I went WTF?!

Because I had thought these books were terrific, I did interview the author for some sf/f mag now defunct whose title I can't recall. The longer I talked with them the less terrific everything seemed . . . .

BTW, your equivalance of these books with BDSM -- and particularly Tanith Lee (whom I also interviewed, more than once, and liked personally ever more at each tim)e -- are rather off the mark. Also the remarks of Carey's novels as slime are really off the mark (though that one wasn't your remark).
Edited Date: 2017-09-25 11:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-09-26 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
To be fair, I didn't say that *all* of Carey's novels are slime. Only that "Kushiel's Dart" was. And there were very real strengths in that novel. For all I know I'd love the rest of her work, but as Mahler said:

"Of Hugo Wolf's one thousand songs I have only heard 300. Those 300 I do not like."

William Hyde

Date: 2017-09-26 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dragoness_e
Did you have to mention Anne Rice's BDSM novels? Those were downright BAD. I'm talking "Left Behind" levels of bad, only in BDSM erotica. (Bad, boring writing, stupid characters, shitty world-building, and bad doctrine combined).

Even Gor was slightly less bad. Still bad, but not as bad as that.

You insult Tanith Lee by mentioning her in the same sentence. Tanith Lee was a good writer.

Date: 2017-09-26 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] felila
I thought discussing BDSM would provoke some strong responses.

Date: 2017-09-26 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] neowolf2
It was bound to.

Date: 2017-09-26 12:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dionysus1999
Consent is important!

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