Sep. 21st, 2017 10:53 pm
james_davis_nicoll: (Default)
[personal profile] james_davis_nicoll
Haven't been around long enough for an adult to reference the technology as something around when they were kids. That's just crazy talk -- 16 years ago, you say?

Date: 2017-09-22 04:06 am (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
My kids are 17 and 14. My spouse and I got smartphones relatively recently, so my kids do (dimly) recall an era when we did not carry the Internet around in our pocket at all times, but they don't remember a world without Wikipedia.

(My 17-year-old still has a freaking flip phone, though. I've offered to go halvsies on a smart phone with her and she's turned me down.)

Date: 2017-09-22 02:52 pm (UTC)
thewayne: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thewayne
Good for her on the flip phone!

Date: 2017-09-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
sethsellis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethsellis
A friend's 13-year-old got a smartphone recently, and after a few months asked to go back to the flip phone. She was unhappy with what it did to her life.

Date: 2017-09-22 06:14 pm (UTC)
dwight_benjamin_thieme: My daughter Ellen in her debut as Rusty from Footloose (Default)
From: [personal profile] dwight_benjamin_thieme
My daughter got her first phone when she was eight (a kid tough Nokia), her first smartphone at ten, and the first of her four parent-granted touchscreen smartphones when she was thirteen. And do you know, those touchscreen upgrades really did turn out to be the bargain she claimed they would be, tending as they did to be more durable than her tweener clamshells. There was that one time when she said her Razr flip phone had stopped working for some reason and handed it over as two separate pieces when I said I'd take a look at it ... [1]

All subsequent parent-supplied phones have come with an OtterBox or equivalent protective case.

[1] As I understand her version of what happened, she was hanging upside down on the monkey bars having a conversation with one friend on behalf of another friend directly underneath her and they got into a tug-of-war over the phone when ground-friend wanted to talk directly to phone-friend, I'm hazy on the details of about what exactly.

This was said in defense of the thesis 'that it was totally not her fault, that she needed a new phone, that there was a new phone made by Apple some of her friends had gotten over the summer which might be good for her and would be cheaper for us to get, since it wasn't a clamshell and had hardly any buttons, not even number buttons so it would last a lot longer than her previous models, oh, and a lot of her friends had already said they were getting one for Christmas (less than three weeks away) and it wouldn't 'look right' if all them had different different phones', presented as one run-on sentence.

Date: 2017-09-23 05:57 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
My niece really, really didn't want a smartphone, but we ended up asking around if friends had old phones and that's what we got. She wanted a flip phone.

Date: 2017-09-22 01:50 pm (UTC)
nelc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nelc
For no particularly good reason, I was building a 3D model of a TNG tricorder this week. I was working on the texturing and building the buttons, and thinking to myself how the interface on those props is very much a product of the time, with discrete buttons behind a plastic membrane. Then I was musing on what a tricorder in the movie reboots or the new series might look like (I haven't seen any of them after the first), probably an iPhone-like "black mirror" (maybe with haptic feedback, but that wouldn't show).

Then I was trying to think how old the iPhone was, then realised that I know at least one adult whose entire teenage span covers the era of the iPhone. To him, an iPhone interface isn't the future, it's what he grew up with.

Date: 2017-09-22 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keith_morrison
The TNG movies had updated their own props: the tricorder in "Nemesis" (at least the hero one built for closeups) had a single screen with the LCARS style interface, and some buttons under a protective cover that flipped up. This is a fan-made replica:

It looks like something entirely reasonable and actually workable.

Date: 2017-09-22 09:17 pm (UTC)
sethsellis: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethsellis
That looks like it would still be a pretty good design for a durable tool in difficult environments. Anything fancier would brick too easily when the user drops it after having all the salt sucked out of them.

Date: 2017-09-24 10:04 am (UTC)
scott_sanford: (Default)
From: [personal profile] scott_sanford
Many people are fans of discrete buttons, or any other controls that always do their one specific thing when used. Buttons behind a plastic membrane, not so much.

Date: 2017-09-22 02:55 pm (UTC)
thewayne: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thewayne
I started dating my wife 14 years ago in December, I remember driving the 500 miles between our houses listening to a Creative Labs Nomad MP3 player, with its glorious 60 meg (probably) hard drive. It seemingly held an infinity of music. My iPhone is 64 gig of material. The latest OS is really a PITB and I shouldn't have updated it before my last drive, but that's on me.

It's amazing stuff. I remember my first cell phone(s) in the '90s. QUITE amazing stuff.

Date: 2017-09-22 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] oh6
Well, someone who was a kid when the Ipod was introduced would be a bit young to go on about how things were when they were kids. When I was 25 I believe I scarcely gave it a thought - I was more concerned about finishing university and what to do when the student household where I lived broke up.

Date: 2017-09-23 05:58 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
If you had had kids at 18, you might be in a reminiscing stage already.

Date: 2017-09-23 10:48 am (UTC)
dormouse1953: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dormouse1953
When I was 25, I had graduated from university and was five years into a job that I stayed in for another 25 years. :-)

Date: 2017-09-22 04:06 pm (UTC)
litalex: Jefferson from John Adams, lounging around (LOL!Jefferson)
From: [personal profile] litalex
I was a young adult when the iPod started. I remember telling how cool apple is to personalize the iPod for you for my first iPod.

Date: 2017-09-22 07:59 pm (UTC)
azurelunatic: A glittery black pin badge with a blue holographic star in the middle. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
My daughter is 21 and about to start being able to teach robots how to wander around the room in a sensible way.

Date: 2017-09-22 10:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] timgueugen
The other day I overheard a couple of first or second year university students on the bus. They briefly went into "kids these days" mode when noting all the 7 year olds who have cell phones and so in 2017.

Date: 2017-09-23 10:52 am (UTC)
dormouse1953: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dormouse1953
Indeed, my iPod has just turned ten years old, and I was a late adopter.

And it's nearly filled up. I'm now thinking do I really need two complete Ring cycles and three separate recordings of Brian's Gothic symphony always available when I'm travelling.


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