Date: 2017-07-17 02:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
I'm surprisingly really happy! I thought there was absolutely no chance, but maybe Moff's departure had something to do with it. I kind of wish it was an older woman, but this actress is supposedly really good, so that's great. I liked Capaldi in other roles, but he was way too harsh for me as the Doctor and I didn't like Clara much either, so the past few seasons were a wash. I've heard good things about Bill though. Maybe she'll come back?

Date: 2017-07-17 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenskyewalker
Nope, Moffat kept setting stuff up for a female Doctor (with a female Master, with Clara and Ashildr kind of becoming the Doctor, and other details), but let's reflexively kick him. Chibnall was reported as sniping back at someone on Twitter that if they wanted someone other than a white male as the Doctor, then they were watching the wrong show; either he was trolling, or Moffat talked him around to it. Capaldi became gentler in S10, if the Doctor being cranky is such a problem for people, and Bill was fun (if underdeveloped, because she was really only created as a one-series companion).

Date: 2017-07-17 03:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
You're doing the exact opposite of making me interested in your point of view, FYI.

Date: 2017-07-17 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keith_morrison
I kind of wish it was an older woman


I've seen a few people say this, and I honestly don't understand it. Baker was 40 when he started, Davison 30, Baker 41, McCoy 44, McGann 37, Eccleston 41, Tennant 34, and Smith 26. At 35, Whittaker doesn't stand out from the crowd as being notable for her age.
Edited Date: 2017-07-17 06:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-07-19 08:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liviapenn

Well, a lot of people dislike the trend for younger Doctors and welcomed Capaldi as a nice return to form, so gender aside this would be disappointing for them. But I also think it has something to do with the way actors can get great roles into their sixties and even seventies, but actresses tend to go invisible as they approach 40 (if not before). An older female Doctor would have been a much bolder choice in that sense. There's also the way that male actors are actually allowed to *age*, to show wrinkles and "character" and gray hair, which helps audiences take them more seriously as characters with authority, experience and wisdom. But female actors have to maintain a much younger appearance in order to get hired/stay active.

I mean, David Tennant is 46 now, Eccleston is in his fifties, and both of them (and Capaldi) are still getting high-profile, meaty, interesting protagonist roles and probably will for the next 10 years, despite the fact that none of them are as perfectly flawless-looking as they were in their twenties. There just aren't that many comparably interesting, significant roles for 40 or 50-year old women, and even when there is an "older woman" role it's often played by a younger woman anyway-- there are a million examples of actresses cast in mother roles to actors less than ten years younger than they are, and even more extreme cases like Angelina Jolie playing Colin Farrell's mother in "Alexander" are not that rare. AJ and CF are literally the SAME AGE, but clearly the logic was "ugh, nobody wants to see some old lady, let's cast a young beautiful actress instead." I think Angelina Jolie is great, but c'mon.

Personally, I also worry that -- all other things being equal -- a script that is written for a younger, fresh-faced, somewhat blandly attractive female Doctor is going to be different than a script written for an older, somewhat crotchety, slightly witchy or stern-looking female Doctor. I don't want this Doctor to be a younger female Doctor AND suddenly become super nurturing and accommodating to everyone's feelings and blush and smile shyly when flirted with, or whatever. I worry that a young, attractive female Doctor won't be allowed to be properly weird and alien, just because it will *feel* alien for people to write those qualities into a female character. Hopefully not, though.

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