Date: 2013-03-18 07:30 pm (UTC)
bibliofile: Fan & papers in a stack (from my own photo) (Default)
From: [personal profile] bibliofile
Gosh, that's an extremely fine point of difference that they're making there. As if homophobia were a BAD thing....

Date: 2013-03-18 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The explanation in the linked column actually appears to be reasonable and well put. The point is not whether Card's behaviour is homophobic, the point is whether the paper could have justifiably made that assertion given the level and depth of treatment they put under that headline, and frankly, that seems a fair point.

Date: 2013-03-18 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruce munro (from
Ah, the usual "he hates the sin, not the sinner" nonsense.

Date: 2013-03-19 12:54 am (UTC)
ext_3718: (Default)
From: [identity profile]
What's odd is that the headline used rhetoric that matches that: they said homophobic views which isn't the same as homophobic author or something similar.

Date: 2013-03-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
*quack* *quack* *quack*

Date: 2013-03-18 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I would like to see other words the paper would use to describe Card....

Date: 2013-03-18 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
"We sincerely apologize for our inappropriately accurate characterization."

Date: 2013-03-18 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Dear Reader, we wrote that Mr. Card is homophobic it is true and we are sorry for it.

Mr. Card may put the commas where he pleases.

(With apologies to Sherridan…)

Date: 2013-03-18 09:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jwgh
In contrast, Michelle Shocked embraces the label.

I would tend to say that anyone who believes that people who want to marry other people of the same sex are in danger of destroying the institution of marriage are, by definition, afraid of them, but what do I know?

Date: 2013-03-18 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seth ellis (from
I just saw that about Shocked on Facebook. I was extremely surprised, though to be honest I don't think I've thought about Shocked in years, and I guess I was making unwarranted assumptions about her based on her fanbase? Though apparently her fanbase was too.

Date: 2013-03-18 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Not just assumptions -- she started out as an atheist dyke, later became religious and at least bi (my label, not hers) by having relationships with men too. Now I just pity her, as she's clearly drunk far too much of the bad Kool-Aid/brown acid.

Date: 2013-03-18 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seth ellis (from
Well, that's disheartening.

Date: 2013-03-18 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Oh wow. Well, it was time to cull my tape collection anyway. Besides, I liked Phranc better...

Date: 2013-03-18 09:58 pm (UTC)
avram: (Post-It Portrait)
From: [personal profile] avram
Has anyone among the Gender Purity Orthodox taken the opposite tack, and embraced the word “homophobia”? They could argue that, as homophobes, they suffer from a phobia, a form of mental illness, which is therefore a protected disability….

Date: 2013-03-18 10:13 pm (UTC)
jwgh: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jwgh
Actually, my comment above isn't fully relevant, so never mind.

I suppose someone could take that approach. Are there homophobia treatment centers?
Edited Date: 2013-03-18 10:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-03-19 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Gay bingo? (Hey, it's fun, and maybe if someone's having enough fun they'll stop being afraid!)

Date: 2013-03-19 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It's a sub-case of Calvin's noted aphorism, "In my opinion, we don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks."

Date: 2013-03-18 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Sot of a "Please, won't you think of the poor homophobes?" eh? That could work.

Date: 2013-03-18 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bruce munro (from
I dunno...doesn't that lead to thinking about the poor Negrophobes and Semitephobes? Or am I falling prey to the Slippery Slope fallacy?

Date: 2013-03-19 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Don't offend the slopophobic.

Date: 2013-03-19 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

Certainly he's homophobic.

It means that, for some reason, he wastes time and effort on the irrational goal of putting an end to homosexuality, rather than a sensible goal, like exterminating the Lima bean.

Date: 2013-03-19 06:50 pm (UTC)
ext_90666: (NeCoRo)
From: [identity profile]
He's not afraid of them, he "just appreciates their inherent danger on a deeper level than the average person does."

Date: 2013-03-23 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
This is "their inherent danger to him", right?



Date: 2013-03-19 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Bigotry and name-calling call for an apology no matter who it is that you bigot and name-call at.


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