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Is there a way to chart the insertion into various wikipedia articles of references to Partners in Wonder: Women and the Birth of Science Fiction 1926-1965 by Eric Leif Davin?

Date: 2017-05-15 05:08 pm (UTC)
viktor_haag: (Default)
From: [personal profile] viktor_haag
It depends what you mean by "references", but I suspect in most of the definitions I can think of the answer is "yes, but it would probably be pretty tedious" (that is, to do it in an automated way might be doable but not accessible to mere end-users).

Essentially all changes to topics in mediawiki are tracked with a timestamp, so you can (manually?) determine when such a reference was first added to all the places it was added to (once you determined which topics had added it), and then chart those "arrival times".

Date: 2017-05-15 09:35 pm (UTC)
beamjockey: DESTINATION MOON rocket (destination moon)
From: [personal profile] beamjockey
I can't at the moment rule out that I might have contributed one or two such references to Wikipedia.

(HIGGINS checks article on Inga Stephens Pratt Clark)

Yup, at least one, in the earliest draft of my article, still persists.

Date: 2017-05-15 09:51 pm (UTC)
beamjockey: DESTINATION MOON rocket (destination moon)
From: [personal profile] beamjockey
There are only about a dozen articles that reference Davin's book (and a couple more that refer to his work as a historian of labor).

So to a motivated researcher, it would be only mildly tedious to step through the histories of each of those articles-- I suggest a binary search-- to locate the point in time at which each Davin reference was inserted. As a bonus, one would collect the handles of the Wikipedia editors who performed those edits. And their own contribution histories could be examined.

I really have no idea why this is an interesting question, nor whether it fascinates you enough to pursue it with the necessary work.

Date: 2017-05-16 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
+1 to this approach. A programmer could try to automate parts of the search, but that would probably take a while to code up.

On the other hand, it might be a useful general tool. Hmm.

Date: 2017-05-16 03:47 pm (UTC)
beamjockey: DESTINATION MOON rocket (destination moon)
From: [personal profile] beamjockey
My late brother was a journalist. I decided he was notable enough to merit a Wikipedia article. (I posted a Declaration of Interest, as is appropriate for an editor writing about a family member.)

I am told that inbound links are a good way to defend the worth of a new Wikipedia article.

Using Wikipedia's internal search box, I found that more than 20 articles already referred to stuff my brother had written. So I gathered that list. I wrote the article about him. I then went to each of the places where his own writings were mentioned, and turned his name into a link to the new article.

The tool [personal profile] drcuriosity describes might have been useful in this situation.


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