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[personal profile] james_davis_nicoll
This one gave me this result

Sensory 16 (but it was 15 the first time round)
Social 0
Organization 14
Autism Spectrum Quotient 9 (where 6+ suggests it may be worth having a proper study)

I question the organization rating as well. And how can someone who is deaf and also effectively blind in one eye score so highly on sensory?

Some of the test seemed stupid: why would anyone use a means of transportation without understanding it? How would people make their connections if they did not understand the network? Are they evil?

This one claimed I had a "higher than average score that is above the clinical threshold". Really annoyingly imprecise. I am sure if I was in any sense socially atypical, it would have come up by now so probably both results are spurious.

Date: 2017-05-01 07:06 pm (UTC)
wendelah1: ("You cannot pass.")
From: [personal profile] wendelah1
I question the organization rating as well. And how can someone who is deaf and also effectively blind in one eye score so highly on sensory?

Maybe you misread some of the questions? I scored very high on sensory because I have unusually good hearing. However, I scored 2 on the autism scale overall.

Some of the test seemed stupid: why would anyone use a means of transportation without understanding it? How would people make their connections if they did not understand the network?

This question reminds of me that joke about why did the chicken cross the road: To get to where they want to go. I know what subway stop to get on and I know what stop to get off. I know approximately how often the subway leaves my station and how long it takes to get to where I'm going. I allow a little extra time to avoid being late. No detailed knowledge of the system is required to use it.

Are they evil? YES. MY SECRET IS OUT. I AM SATAN.

Date: 2017-05-01 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"Why would anyone use a means of transportation without understanding it?"

In my case, overconfidence.

Last Saturday I went to a concert at (roughly) Spadina and Lonsdale. As the subway was not running, this required a new route which would involve a bit more walking.

To make a long story short, I was unaware that Heath Street, which I was relying on, changes its name to "Tichester" about ten yards before the bus stop I was looking for. So naturally I missed Heath entirely. And that Lonsdale, when I found it, turned out not to connect with ... Lonsdale.

In other words one street had two names, while two streets had one name (even to the extension, both were Rd).

I made it to the concert on time. Walking is good for me, anyway.

Then there's the time I walked from Amsterdam's outskirts to its downtown. Except not.

William Hyde

Date: 2017-05-01 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] maruad
There is a street in Winnipeg that starts as Salter, becomes Isobel when it goes over a bridge, then becomes Colony before becoming Memorial.

Memorial then splits with one part dead ending at the Legislature while the other is renamed Osborne which it remains till it passes over a third bridge (it doesn't change names over the second bridge) when it becomes Dunkirk Drive.

Dunkirk bends to the east then, when it crosses St Mary's it become Dakota.

This in a city that is mostly laid out in a grid though some main thorough fares were originally ox cart paths and others were determined by river trails.

I missed the part between Isobel and Colony where there is a slight bend in the street and it then becomes Balmoral before becoming Colony.
Edited Date: 2017-05-01 09:38 pm (UTC)

Do mimes find cruel jibes silencing?

Date: 2017-05-01 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So, fool that I am, I click through, and at the second of the two links James shares I read this: "[blah, blah] suffering from a variety of mental health conditions [blah] autism."

See, this is why me and the author of that cr@p can't be friends: I don't "suffer" from autism; I enjoy it very much,
thanks. The social anxiety is a small price to pay for finding pretty much everything at all, even people sometimes, "interesting", albeit for OCD-level values of "interesting" when it comes to geek-bait topics. I am never bored.

Date: 2017-05-01 11:45 pm (UTC)
lydy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lydy
I test at 6. The social questions, in particular, tend to encourage people with social anxiety to test poorly. I am probably average in relating to people, but I worry about it a lot, so I tend to say I really don't know how people think, or what their motivations are...this may also be influenced by the fact that I just got back from visiting my mother, and that was spectacularly unsuccessful. Also, the fiction question may well be dependent upon what one reads. SF, in particular, tends to lay out people's motivations very clearly, as it is often part of the world-building. I often find people in mimetic fiction baffling, but sf is often crystal clear. (And sometimes, I'm just plain wrong. I'm re-reading _Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel_ and their motivations are not what I thought they were the last time I read it.)

Date: 2017-05-02 12:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
I have previously wondered if there's a correlation between "being annoyed about the imprecision of online tests" and one's position relative to the autistic spectrum.

Date: 2017-05-02 12:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
Also doesn't take into account some of the things that I'm naturally bad at but can compensate for.

I've got both physical-sensory and social-perceptive deficits that I've learned how to correct for over the years - and that's a big part of why I'm a good, understanding listener. Now.

Date: 2017-05-02 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ethelmay
The people who find me a good, understanding listener are frequently themselves on the spectrum. I think that counts for something.

I wanted to answer many of those questions (on the first test; haven't done the second) "It really depends" or "I have no fucking clue." (I scored 17, 10, 9, overall 5.) It says "if an individual scores more than 6 out of 10, it is recommended that they consider more specialist diagnostic assessment." Do they actually mean 6 or more out of 10, or 7 and above? I should probably get an extra point just for wondering that.

Date: 2017-05-02 01:54 am (UTC)
rosefox: Green books on library shelves. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rosefox
An unscientific sample of my autistic friends suggests yes.

Date: 2017-05-02 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bwross
It occurred to me while going through the test that there was a good number of negative questions, which made me think about how accurate the test could be since that would seem to just lead people into answering incorrectly. Then it occurred to me that that might well be part of the test, because people focused on details would get all those questions right, but people with little focus might unknowingly cancel some answers out, which could provide protection against them trying to force a result.

Date: 2017-05-05 07:24 am (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
I actually thought that might be a deliberate joke.

Offline tests, too. I have entertained suspicions that my psych makes me do the Beck Depression Inventory largely so he can gauge the state of my mood through the intensity or otherwise of my Beck Depression Inventory Rant.

Date: 2017-05-05 07:30 am (UTC)
drcuriosity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
I now find myself wondering how many calories I can burn off by ranting about BMI, also.

Date: 2017-05-02 12:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jsburbidge
I notice that neither test asks if the taker has disabilities. They put a significant amount of stress on perception, but if you're partially deaf (as I am) it won't matter where you are on or off the spectrum, you still won't score terribly high in that area. ETA:well,James seems to have, but I kept having to answer questions low because of hearing issues and ended up either an 8 in that area.
Edited Date: 2017-05-02 12:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-02 01:44 am (UTC)
vom_marlowe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] vom_marlowe
I noticed this as well, but I think this set of tests isn't trying to use the sensory stuff to diagnose the autism so much as find out what percentage of autism scoring individuals score against the sensory stuff. (ie, that this is a research gathering test, not just a diagnostic tool, and therefore, the test makers wouldn't necessarily need to know why a sensory score was low, just that it was.)

Date: 2017-05-02 01:48 am (UTC)
vom_marlowe: (Default)
From: [personal profile] vom_marlowe
Interesting.
27 sensory perception
18 social interaction
16 organization
3 autism

I scored pretty unusually, I think, but I did public service for decades (social) in a library (organization of thought) context, and I'm a mixed-media artist in my free time.

Date: 2017-05-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] felila
Got an 8. Aspie female. But I knew that.

Date: 2017-05-02 10:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] graydon
I could wish it wasn't "disorder"; a hangover of the failed-angel prescriptive norm. (If they're willing to re-classify neurotypicality as "deranged optimism syndrome" I would reconsider.)

I think it's important to remember "spectrum" means "we don't have a means of instrumental detection"; if there's a means of instrumental detection, you get "mild" and "severe".

So of course it isn't precise. It's also not hugely useful in middle age; building a different set of coping mechanisms is highly nontrivial even in one's relatively plastic teens. (I imagine it's like trying to develop native speaker fluency; best done early.)

Date: 2017-05-03 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] felila
I didn't realize I was on the spectrum until I was over fifty. That explained a lot of things! I think I've done better since then, consciously adopting coping strategies.

Date: 2017-05-03 02:13 am (UTC)
kathmandu: Close-up of pussywillow catkins. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kathmandu
"This one claimed I had a "higher than average score that is above the clinical threshold". Really annoyingly imprecise. I am sure if I was in any sense socially atypical, it would have come up by now so probably both results are spurious."

James, your sense of humor is beyond 'dry' and into 'brut'.

Date: 2017-05-03 04:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rfrancis
First one gave me 10, 3, 4 and then 8/10 respectively; so that result is based entirely on the social as far as I can figure and since a neurologist told me just days ago that I probably have an anxiety disorder and should see someone about that, I feel like that's got an explanation at hand already that doesn't involve autism (necessarily, anyway.)

I didn't bother with the second one as I found the first one somewhat tiring.

I do care somewhat about how transportation that I use works but I don't really sit and contemplate it while travelling. On the other hand, there's no train travel here to speak of and I avoid plane travel, so the questions were a little out of place for me anyway, I suppose...

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