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[personal profile] jsburbidge 2017-04-19 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never heard of either, but then I pay no attention to either media or (SF) art.

I do note that both look very male and very white. The Star Wars citation was special.
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[personal profile] scifantasy 2017-04-19 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Should the whole barrel of apples be discarded because some were bad?

The expression literally says one bad apple spoils the barrel. That's what it means.
Edited 2017-04-19 20:02 (UTC)
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[personal profile] viktor_haag 2017-04-19 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Pish posh, apples schmapples. What's important is that OddCon be saved.

(Sheesh)

(sarcasm emoji)
Edited 2017-04-19 20:10 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sami 2017-04-20 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Disclaimer: I know literally nothing about this guy except for reading that statement.

I have a certain sympathy for people wanting to rescue local fan-things even if there've been some bad things going on. If you can avoid bankrupting the organisation overall you can aim for a better concom and general improvement in the future.

However, I have to say, if I felt like agreeing to be GOH at a con would also require a super-defensive statement justifying myself in advance, I think I maybe wouldn't agree.
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[personal profile] theweaselking 2017-04-20 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
And, importantly, it's a *true statement*. Apple spoiling is literally contagious. One bad apple literally does cause every other apple in the barrel to go bad. Which is WHY THAT EXPRESSION EXISTS.
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[personal profile] sami 2017-04-20 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
SERIOUSLY

I mean, you don't have to throw the whole barrel away - so long as you removed the bad apple immediately and entirely, and carefully checked the other apples for contamination, and maybe cleaned out the barrel before you repacked it.

BAD APPLES ARE A SERIOUS PROBLEM
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[personal profile] jessie_c 2017-04-20 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently the rest of the apples are banding behind the bad one and daring us to claim that they're doing anything wrong. The spoilage happened long ago.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2017-04-19 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I see Frenkel's no longer listed on the concom page (but Russell still is).
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[personal profile] jessie_c 2017-04-20 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
"I learned that one of the Members had made choices that upset people in the past, and how it was handled was not the best. I believe that the damage that was done has been contained and separated from the convention."

No.

Just no.

In fact, there's not enough no in the world to make up the amount of no that statement merits.

Believe what you like; but don't come complaining to us when it splashes back on you, Michael. Your selective blindness will not protect you from the people who actually know what happened.
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[personal profile] mme_hardy 2017-04-20 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Last week I was at Annie's Annuals when a woman dashed past me to corral her kid, shouting "Make good choices, Sarah!" That is the only context in which "made choices that upset people" is appropriate.
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[personal profile] jessie_c 2017-04-20 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
His massive dose of arrogant entitlement is breathtaking. But it does seem to fit in with the Concom's values as exemplified by their prior behaviour.
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[personal profile] graydon 2017-04-20 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Guests of Honor are supposed to be a draw for the con, aren't they?
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[personal profile] filkerdave 2017-04-20 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
In general. There's usually a substantial group of people who'll go regardless of who the Guests of Honor are. (There are many cons that I used to go to where I did't find out who the guests where until Saturday afternoon).
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[personal profile] scott_sanford 2017-04-23 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
"Um," he said intelligently, remembering the time as an overworked concom member (yes, that's redundant) when someone was needed to sit badge checking at the art show door and he grabbed the closest warm body who wasn't obviously doing something and basically drafted her. Other people, those who could recognize that year's Artist Guest of Honor by sight, were quite diplomatic, all things considered.
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[personal profile] filkerdave 2017-04-25 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, if you're going to draft a GoH to check badges at the art show, the AGoH is a great choice.
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[personal profile] dragoness_e 2017-04-20 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've been living under a rock lately, and just re-subscribed to James' feed, so this is all new to me.

But... Frenkel? Again? Wasn't he fired from an editing job at a major scifi publisher for being a serial harasser, a few years back? WTF would anyone have him on a ConCom or any other "official" position in a Con? One would think he might be just a bit of a public liability for a Con...
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[personal profile] dragoness_e 2017-04-20 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
I read that part of it. So you've got the Serial Harrasser, and his buddy the Abusive Asshole, and the Idiot Apologist... Geez, is this a ConCom or the current White House Staff?

[personal profile] agharta75 2017-04-20 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ya know, if you have a ring of harassers running a ConCom, you need to keep the whole thing quiet enough so that you continue to have new victims to harass.

I am speaking purely hypothetically, of course.
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[personal profile] mme_hardy 2017-04-20 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Well, he'd never harassed anybody at OdysseyCon. Seriously. That was the explanation.
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[personal profile] magedragonfire 2017-04-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
That we know of.
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[personal profile] ffutures 2017-04-20 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, that's really not going to impress anyone.